To think Corbyn's maths is wrong again

[Rebeccaslicker]

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/28/jeremy-corbyn-announces-labour-will-buy-every-homeless-person/amp/

How is this going to work? Does he mean "give" as in legally transfer or does he mean no rent? How does he think the houses are going to be maintained and utility bills paid? Is it fair on people who've been on waiting lists? Is it really going to reduce the numbers of homeless people if it becomes seen as a quick way to skip the queue?

I got back to my car in an NCP the other night, to find 5 homeless people right next to it with foil and needles. They were also going through some wallets (which may well have been their own; I didn't stop to check of course). The state of them was very sad and although I did feel intimidated at first, I also didn't report them because I thought, where else would they go - it's chucking it down. But then again, no way would they be able to look after a house. They were like zombies.

He's absolutely right to want to do something about the homeless situation. There should be more lots more help. But I don't think this is the answer. AIBU?

I'm sure lots of working class kids have and will continue to go to uni.

Was it earmarked for the middle classes? Why can't we poor people go to uni too?

They do

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-wrong-on-working-class-students

I ask again, because my question got lost upthread - should homeless be housed in the location of their choosing?

In my town we have had a recent influx of homeless - not local people. It seems to me to be very unfair if they were prioritised over people who had been on the housing list a long time.

Ohcrepe most landlords are accidental and have fallen into renting out.

They do

"The latest figures available are from 2013/14 so we don’t know if there is a long-term trend here."

Hey I'm hoping that one-year trend holds.

Hey I'm hoping that one-year trend holds.

I can find plenty in the Times to refute Corbyn/Momentum suggestion but you obviously would not like the source.

Tution fees are not going to disappear now, again another issue that can be traced back to the last labour government, they run themselves as a business.

But I will ask a question, why should poor people who do not go to university pay for the middle class to go to university, do you not think it is actually more fair for people to pay for themselves after they earn a certain amount?

most landlords are accidental and have fallen into renting out.

No they haven't we have a mindset that people will not sell for what they think its worth, not only that we have had the media ramping house prices, all media have been involved in this from the obvious Telegraph/FT and BBC to the point where I stopped buying the Guardian where they had a nice middle page spread promoting snapping up cheap flats in my home town in the north and others working class towns.

Its a mindset that has set in, and it is not along political lines, the only reason why house prices is such a hot topic is because the snake has started to eat itself and people with even more money have entered the market.

most of my friends who have a rental property are accidental due to jobs and relationships, we only have one friend who has more than one and it hasn't been the way they expected.

Property is never a quick way to make money and it comes at great personal risk.

most of my friends who have a rental property are accidental due to jobs and relationships, we only have one friend who has more than one and it hasn't been the way they expected

Your anecdote does not invalidate the situation that we have been building for 18 years.

The undercurrent of ever rising house prices will have played a part in their decision.

Its just the way it is now.

STOP THE PRESS!

My two local Labour MPs (not voted for my me I hasten to add) have just been on the regional news calling to end hospital car parking charges

Jezzer maths again.

No but we do have more people not enough houses in cities where people work and a deregulated lending system which encouraged a massive housing boom hmmm which party was in power ....

*STOP THE PRESS!

My two local Labour MPs (not voted for my me I hasten to add) have just been on the regional news calling to end hospital car parking charges

Jezzer maths again.*

What??? You do know the hospitals don't get the parking charges don't you? The car parks are run by private companies who make a massive profits

What??? You do know the hospitals don't get the parking charges don't you?

Well that's funny because some have just said on the news they do.

No but we do have more people not enough houses in cities where people work and a deregulated lending system which encouraged a massive housing boom hmmm which party was in power ....

True, but your post will be probably jumped on by the momentum bot with a whatabout the tories and ignore the knife edge that it will be political suicide to preside over a true correction in the housing market, Labour will only touch the edges the same as the cons are trying to do.

What??? You do know the hospitals don't get the parking charges don't you? The car parks are run by private companies who make a massive profits

What?

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/28/nhs-hospitals-made-174m-from-car-park-charges-this-year

makeourfuture You grasp of University tuition fees are as non existent as your grasp of the difference between debt and deficit.

Corbyns policy of free tuition fees for all was a massive redistribution of wealth from poorer to wealthier earners. Momentum for the middle classes not the working poor.

Some hospitals get the money from parking. With others it goes to a third party or the PFI partner. You'd have to look up each one to see which it is.

Make's use of the word "we" for the poor was interesting.

He's basically just asking for people to give him money....!

"China’s state-run media has commended a “pragmatic” Theresa May for resisting calls to publicly challenge Beijing over Hong Kong and human rights during her three-day visit."

Why do Tories have such a problem with human rights?

She's was there on a trade mission - especially in light of the B word.

Why do Tories have such a problem with human rights?

Sounbite alarm.

Maybe because Teresa May's partner doesn't miraculously specialise in human rights law just before it's enacted and make an absolute shit load of money from it just after it's enacted......

Ok being v flippant, but I never understood how the blairs managed this on without the press pointing it out!!

@make

In the light pf Corbyn’s reluctance to say anything about the Venezuelan government you are on pretty shaky ground here.....

The reality is that politicians on both sides pick and choose the human rights violations they condemn and those they choose to ignore - and left wing dictatorships in Latin America have been a permanent blind spot for the loony left.

I'm a pragmatist and IMO, I think that there is enough of a balance across the PLP that Corbyn will probably struggle to get everything through Parliament. Yes, we vote for a party with the expectation that they will fulfill all their election pledges but I am realistic enough and have seen enough elections not to expect them all to come to pass so for me it's more about the vision and to me, Labour seem to be more 'society orientated' than the Tories. It's a pity that the Tories have drifted so far from their 'one nation' philosophy and whilst it's still occasionally referred by the Tories when it's deemed to be politically expedient, it seems like mere gesturing than anything tangible.