To think this delusional dirty pervert should stay exactly where he is and starve if that's what he wants?

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There is currently a delightful person on hunger strike because the prison service won't "recognise their gender" and send them to a women's prison.

see here

Nobody seems to want to mention the fact that they are in fact a sex offender and voyeur who broke into teenage girls bedrooms to wank into their underwear

Why the hell they think they should be in a women's prison is completely beyond me. Anyone able to enlighten me?

balsamicbarbara
woman = adult human female.
Female - of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring and produce eggs.
Both words are biological terms. I'm not sure where you've got the idea that woman is a 'gender term' but you are wrong.

I mean seriously, don't people even know how to use dictionaries nowadays?

A woman is an adult female human. A man is an adult male human. Trans identifying males (or transwomen to you) are men who do what they think is their best to "live as women". They cannot change sex, they can never truly live as a woman because they're NOT women. Gender is an extremely damaging social construct designed to tell people which little boxes they should fit into. Instead of enshrining gender into law it should be abolished. Imagine a world without gender stereotypes. Wouldnt it be lovely?

Ive yet to see a definition of women that includes both me and trans identifying males and excludes my male husband. And that's because there isn't one. Again, woman means adult human female.

Woman means adult female human. I'll keep saying it. woman means adult human female. I don't give a fuck how many times TRAs whine on about TW are W. No they aren't. Theyre a subset of men. The person in question on this thread is most certainly not a woman. I have nothing in common from a cellular level upwards with that person. He is not a woman.

A person with a dick is a bloke end of!

Blokes should go to male prisons for their crimes. They have no place in women only spaces. Women only spaces are for those people who don't have a dick. Most women don't want a penis in their women only spaces. They have good reason for this.

Hair straighteners and make-up doesn't make anyone a woman FFS!

The gospel according to balsamicbarbara:

These are the words you are permitted to use. These other words are forbidden to you. Of the permitted words, the meanings will be as I say and you are not to deviate from this by looking in dictionaries or any of that shit.

balsamicbarbara Sun 28-Jan-18 16:31:50
If you want to discriminate based on genitals then use the sex terms male and female. Man and woman are gender terms and can be fluid

Thats the exact opposite of what it says in the Equality Act.
'Man' and 'woman' are biological sex terms and are NOT gender fluid.

Transgender people have the protected characteristic of transgender; trans women are not women. they are transgender.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/7
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/11

Can any of the allies tell me what the word is for someone with a vagina?

Because we had a word, we needed a word, we don't have one any more according to you?

Yep, some of us can read, comprehend language, use dictionaries and google and are educated in basic biology. How frustrating for TRAs.

Anyone saying "actual women" is as transphobic as people who talk about "real marriage" are homophobic.
No, the two things are not the same. Marriage is defined as a legal blah blah blah between two people. Therefore anyone implying gay marriage is in some way not a real marriage is both wrong and homophobic.
Whereas the only reason we now have to say “actual woman” is because there is a movement insisting the meaning of woman has now changed to include men. It hasn’t.

If you want to discriminate based on genitals then use the sex terms male and female. Man and woman are gender terms and can be fluid.

I don’t want to discriminate- but I do need to be able to differentiate. In certain circumstances I need to be able to exclude males from female spaces, largely for the protection of the female.
A woman is an adult human female. See my point above for why that’s important.

Mrs TerryPratchett Yes the word for someone with a vagina is female or woman. Always has been and always will be....Big, burly blokes with dicks are women - My Arse!

This world has no regard for women whatsoever. As for the fantastic Labour leader....Hasn't he shown his true colours??

If you want to discriminate based on genitals then use the sex terms male and female. Man and woman are gender terms and can be fluid.

But man means adult human male and woman means adult human female. So man/male or woman/female are pretty much the same thing

Unless you have another definition of man and woman? Which I would love to hear as I have not ever seen anyone define man or woman without referring to biology.

And 'gender terms' are masculine and feminine.

Oh yeah @PurpleTango I think that. I'm curious what the allies think. Because unless people really think there is nothing unique or uniquely discriminated about WRT being the sex that bears children etc. We need a word for us.

Terry they won’t reply as they don’t have an answer because there is no alternative word for female/woman.

But I guess you have just made them realise that. Well Done!

If only it was that easy!

I name the people formerly know as women as snarklebots.

Tomorrow we will have trans snarklebots claiming they are real snarklebots.

And it will go on and on until the world ends.

Yep and all the medical books ever written will have to be re-written to include the diagram and words of "The Snarklebots Genital System".

By then everyone will be called Snarklebots and medical science will have to be re-written to include the words Snarklebot with penis and Snarklebots without penis. Because we without are all aware that you are only important if you have one. The words vagina, ovaries and womb will become obsolete - because they are obviously no longer important!

Women with dicks - My Arse!!

Is he/she whatever still physically in possession of a penis? then cut it off. On that we can all agree - even the pervert him/her/itself.

Good Grief Peppa he wont want to cut it off. It's useful to him for the times when it suits him to identify as a man! This is the thing with most Trans they want it all ways!

But if it is identifying as a woman wouldn't it want to get rid of the dick? (genuine question) or do trans people want to have both?

either way if he has sexually abused people he should get his member cut off. Surely as a trans he wants it cut off anyway? he could get it done for free.

Around 80% of men identifying as women don't have surgery or take hormones, pepper. Apparently we all have to say that a penis can be female now. That is how mad the transgender movement is now.

There are some shocking hashtags on twitter where transwomen (who ARE women, just because they say so) add their selfies - of them in women's clothing/makeup sporting a giant erection. Oh yes. And they want access to women's toilets, changing rooms, prisons...

Let him die. Less drain on the taxpayer.

ps - they don't want their dicks cut off, because this is sexual thing - a sexual fetish - it's called autogynephilia.

There are some shocking hashtags on twitter where transwomen (who ARE women, just because they say so) add their selfies - of them in women's clothing/makeup sporting a giant erection

Dear god

Are natal women in women’s prisions allowed straighteners (I’m guessing not) make up and hair removal devices?

I’m betting they are allowed tampons and towels. Give him those if he’s a woman.