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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3142761-All-Trump-sees-is-green-All-we-see-is-a-traitorous-orange-menace-Who-is-right-Place-bets-now-Trump-continued?pg=1

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thebewilderness · 02/02/2018 20:37

You are just wrong, Justanotherlurker. The understanding I have of the FBI and police procedures is beside the point and none of your business.
We went through an enormous fight over the abuses of the FISA system during Both the Bush and Obama administration so I give no effs what you think I would think if it was Trump minions abusing the system.
You whipping out the partisanship ad hom because you do not like my informed opinion was inappropriate. I no longer care what you think.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 20:39

If this was a credible oversight investigation into the FBI then whatever it revealed would be serious and of note. This memo however is written by Nunes, who has performed this charade of being recused from an investigation into a campaign he was a part of many times, involving the same farce of presenting misleading information that is never verified, and who hasn't even read the underlying documents the memo is based on. I just don't place too much stock in its characterizations of events. Whether anyone else does is absolutely their prerogative but it'd be a "agree to disagree" situation because we'd be approaching it from different premises.

cozietoesie · 02/02/2018 20:39

Stay calm, folks. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 20:44

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A White House official confirms that K.T. McFarland has asked to withdraw her nomination as U.S. ambassador to Singapore.
McFarland was renominated in January after Democrats placed her nomination on hold because they wanted her to answer their questions about her knowledge of communications between Michael Flynn and Sergey Kislyak.

edition.cnn.com/2018/02/02/politics/kt-mcfarland-withdraws-nomination/index.html

Justanotherlurker · 02/02/2018 20:44

The ball has now been passed to the dems and FBI's.

I know these threads are a mini resist echo chamber, but this partisan release has shown a massive fuck up by the FBI and hypocrisy of dems in equal measure.

lionheart · 02/02/2018 20:46

In addition to the previous link to lawfare from Gum (and because a couple of the points mentioned on this thread are touched upon).

lawfareblog.com/notable-reactions-nunes-memo

lionheart · 02/02/2018 20:48

And more.

thinkprogress.org/3-lies-in-the-nunes-memo-4c6498aad473/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 20:49

Caroline O.
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The Russian propagandists are excited about #MemoDay! 8 of the top 10 trending topics in the Russian-linked influence network tracked by @SecureDemocracy are related to the Nunes memo and/or Steele Dossier.

Perfect example of how Russia is exploiting the Nunes memo to divide Americans: #MemoDay is the top trending hashtag and #RemoveNunes is the #3 hashtag among Russian-linked influence accounts. They're playing both sides here — and quite effectively.

The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger
The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger
Justanotherlurker · 02/02/2018 20:51

You whipping out the partisanship ad hom because you do not like my informed opinion was inappropriate. I no longer care what you think

Lol, ok, if heads roll in the FBI, I will not expect you to spin it as a Trump conspiracy, I've been lurking on these threads since "impeach now" has been called since last January, and when you post mother Jones articles you lose all respect of being non partisan.

This is a fuck up by the FBI, and if you do have the knowledge, you would take off your partisan glasses and agree.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 20:54

Even Gowdy agrees.

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As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation.

10:34 AM - 2 Feb 2018

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 20:56

Richard W. Painter

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Intel 101
When the FBI learns that a man is contacting Russian agents, the issue isn’t who told the FBI. It could be a mob boss or it could be Stormy Daniels. What we care about is that the FBI get a warrant and do it’s job of finding out why the man is contacting Russian agents.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 20:58

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Memo actually confirms a timeline not favorable to Trump:

  1. Counterintelligence probe opened in July 2016 by FBI because of George P./Wikileaks/emails.
  2. FISA application on Carter Page obtained late Oct. 2016, after Page had left Trump campaign.
GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 20:59

"The GOP pulled the pin out of the grenade and threw the pin."

That's floating around Twitter right now.Have to agree. Grin

lionheart · 02/02/2018 21:05

Trying to run with it, for sure.

www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/nunes-memo-treason-paul-gosar-386089

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 21:06

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Steele had no obligation not to speak to reporters, per a source, because his research never belonged to the FBI. By late Oct., a relationship with the FBI had not been formalized even though the possibility of a commercial contract had been discussed. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/a-closer-look-at-the-nunes-memo/552233/

A source familiar with the episode, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, told me that Steele’s research belonged to his clients, Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee. Steele gave the information to the FBI out of a sense of duty, the source said, but a relationship with the FBI had not been formalized even though the possibility of a commercial contract had been discussed to continue the research into Trump’s Russia ties. Such a contract never materialized, which meant that Steele was under no obligation to avoid reporters. The FBI acknowledged that, the source said.

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The memo seems to imply that there all sorts of rules around being a source. Sources are good and bad, some lie, all have bias. More importantly, Steele was not a "source". We don't run Brits. We had no institutional control over him. He volunteered info as a former partner.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 21:09

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In leveling its central charge dossier was entire basis of #CarterPage warrant, #NunesMemo twice inadvertently undermines the argument: 1, it says Papadopoulos info, not dossier, triggered opening of the FBI probe, and, 2, it notes FBI corroborated some of Steele dossier.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 21:28

Pentagon pushes for new, low-yield nuclear bombs

www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/pentagon-pushes-low-yield-nuclear-bombs-194821386.html?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/02/2018 21:33

Could False Alerts and Fake News Start A Nuclear War?

With North Korea and Donald Trump recklessly threatening mutual nuclear annihilation, two recent bogus incoming missile alerts raise troubling questions.

www.fastcompany.com/40524460/could-false-alerts-and-fake-news-start-a-nuclear-war

lionheart · 02/02/2018 21:38

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In Oval Office just now, Trump is asked by reporters:

Does it make you more likely to fire Rosenstein? Do you still have confidence in him?

"You figure that one out," Trump responded

Gumpendorf · 02/02/2018 21:42

twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/959538877588557828

A key point in @SenFeinstein statement on #NunesMemo:

“The Nunes memo is clearly intended to impugn the Steele dossier – OF WHICH NO SIGNIFICANT FACT HAS BEEN DISPROVED"

Reminder: Feinstein sits on Senate Intelligence Committee with access to the classified info

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 21:49

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U.S. immigration deal by deadline 'could very well not happen': Trump reut.rs/2EzGODb

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 21:53

Trump's off to Florida for the weekend. Whole country going to shit, but hey yeah, Florida.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 21:55

An excellent and amusing thread.

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It's like this entire administration is made up of James Bond villains. pic.twitter.com/nV8ns36giu

GingerIvy · 02/02/2018 21:56

Not good.

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