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To worry about the doomsday clock

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littlebillie · 25/01/2018 19:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35412454

It's just moved close to midnight

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KindergartenKop · 25/01/2018 19:58

That article is from 2 years ago.
It's been close to midnight for ages.
Chill.

TheCaptainsCat · 25/01/2018 19:58

This is two years old!

littlebillie · 25/01/2018 19:59

Nope it's moved 30 seconds closer

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littlebillie · 25/01/2018 20:00

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-42823734

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littlebillie · 25/01/2018 20:01

Tonight

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MrsPreston11 · 25/01/2018 20:03

I wouldn’t take it as gospel.

1947 was more than 7 minutes ago after all.......

specialsubject · 25/01/2018 20:03

No point worrying, nothing to be done.

Your personal risk of a car crash is much higher. Worry about that.

Coconutspongexo · 25/01/2018 20:04

But it’s just a metaphor.

littlebillie · 25/01/2018 20:18

Just wondered what triggered the move, canapés in Davos?

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IHaveACuntingPlan · 25/01/2018 20:22

I'm worried about it too op. I know there's nothing at all we can do about it and it's therefore pointless getting wound up but I can't help but feel afraid. Not just for myself but for my children.

littlebillie · 25/01/2018 21:17

Pointless to worry but the reasoning is not illuminating I was just looking at the movements. In the 1980s I was in my teens and world war seemed very near and it was 4 minutes then.

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taskmaster · 25/01/2018 21:25

But it’s just a metaphor

Yes, its a metaphor for the actual real threat level of us all being wiped out by a man made apocalypse. It's the only once been at this threat level, in 1953 when both the US and the Soviet Union were testing their first thermonuclear devices.

This is real.
The organization — which has 15 Nobel Laureates on its board — now believes “the world is not only more dangerous now than it was a year ago; it is as threatening as it has been since World War II,” Bulletin officials Lawrence M. Krauss and Robert Rosner wrote in an op-ed published Thursday by The Washington Post. “In fact, the Doomsday Clock is as close to midnight today as it was in 1953, when Cold War fears perhaps reached their highest levels

Bellamuerte · 25/01/2018 21:26

It's awful but it's out of my/your hands so no point worrying.

taskmaster · 25/01/2018 21:27

That isnt how worry works.

specialsubject · 25/01/2018 21:36

Correct, but wasting life on this kind of thing is pointless. We all have to learn to deal with the inevitable bad things. This isn't one of them.

MayhemandMadness01 · 25/01/2018 21:37

Its mainly scientists, with the best will in the world, they dont have insider knowledge of what is happening with world leaders and the conversations taking place behind closed doors. They can study reports, media articles etc and form an opinion to based the 'clock' timings on but it is just their opinion.

Now, if Trump starts manufacturing bomb shelters, thats the time to start worrying, it might be the end of the world but that bugger will still want to make a buck or two.

NotACleverName · 25/01/2018 21:42

The golden goose is on the loose now, folks...

I wouldn't worry really. I still think it's all just dick-swinging between Trump and Kim Jong-un.

taskmaster · 25/01/2018 21:46

yeah those scientists know nothing about climate change or nuclear weapons. Hmm

Just a few of the people on the board:

*Senior Research Scholar (Emeritus) at Stanford University’s Center for International Security and Cooperation.

*Frank Stanton Professor in Nuclear Security in the Center for International Security and Cooperation in the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and a Professor in the Department of Geological Sciences in the School of Earth, Environmental and Energy Sciences at Stanford University.

*Senior Research Scholar for Cyber Policy and Security at the Center for International Security and Cooperation and Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution, both at Stanford University.

*Director of the International Security Program at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs in Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government

*Research Professor at the Institute for International Science and Technology Policy, Elliott School of International Affairs, at the George Washington University.

  • Director of the Nuclear Crisis Group, an independent project of Global Zero, served previously as Special Assistant to the President of the United States for National Security Affairs and senior director at the National Security Council for arms control and nonproliferation.#

Why don't you tell us what they have got wrong then?

Coconutspongexo · 25/01/2018 21:49

They still don’t know what is going on exactly in N.Korea or Russia or even the White House.

taskmaster · 25/01/2018 21:50

they know a shit load more than you do

Coconutspongexo · 25/01/2018 21:53

You’re taking this awfully personally fucking hell.

taskmaster · 25/01/2018 21:55

Nope, just pointing out that the actual foremost experts on the planet on this subject do probably know more than random MN'ers.

Coconutspongexo · 25/01/2018 21:56

No one is saying they don’t know more but they also won’t know what goes on behind closed doors Hmm

caddywally · 25/01/2018 21:57

I think it's scaremongering. Why has it never been further away from midnight than 17 minutes? How peaceful and environmentally friendly would we have to be for it to be hours and hours way from midnight? I just don't really understand how they're measuring a "minute" in this sense. Have they set out some objective measurement of a minute?

MayhemandMadness01 · 25/01/2018 22:03

Of course they 'know' more than us, but after they consider the evidence before them, its still their opinion as I very much doubt that they have a personal hotline to the World Leaders.

Cut and paste all you want but Stanford, Harvard, George Washington universities - all Amercian. Not really World wide opinions.

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