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to be sick of all the man/boy hate.

710 replies

churchoflego · 24/01/2018 09:55

What the hell is going on? Men are not the devil. Boys are not the devil. I have sons and all I read is how as white males they are basically considered the spawn of satan. When did males become the enemy? Surely there are good and bad individuals who happen to be male or female?

I was horribly bullied at school by females and again at work by females, however, I don't consider all females to be evil. They were horrible individuals who happened to be female.

It's really depressing and scary.

OP posts:
ReliefOfChaos · 24/01/2018 23:08

*Figures released on Thursday from the Office for National Statistics showed that the number of domestic abuse victims has reached a 10-year low, at 1.9m.

According to the estimates, from the Crime Survey for England and Wales, 1.2m of the victims were female, while 713,000 were male.

The gap between male and female victims was also the smallest in recent years, at 522,000.

Numbers peaked in 2005/06, when 2.8m victims were recorded, including 1.8m women and 986,000 men. *

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/domesticabuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2017

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/01/2018 23:08

pumper

Well its dead easy to solve the male violence problem

Call it violence and then women are included

2 women a week are murdered by people

EnidButton · 24/01/2018 23:19

Cry me a river OP. 🙄

Pumperthepumper · 24/01/2018 23:22

relief I can’t find those quotes on your link, want to point me in the right direction?

How many women need to be killed by men per year before you think we should step in?

How does saying ‘76% of violent crimes are committed by men’ lead to violence?

Ploppymoodypants · 24/01/2018 23:26

Rufus, but the question surely needs to be these?

How many women are killed by men?
How many men are killed by men?

How many women killed by women?
How many men killed by women?

Then you can surely see that there is a problem with male violence. It’s not to say that women are not violent and that, women’s violent is not a problem. Just that the overwhelming majority or perpetrators are male and we need to acknowledge that, to understand it and thus address it.

TovaGoldCoin · 24/01/2018 23:28

A woman has never sexually harassed or assaulted me.. But men have. So it's #notallmen but pretty much enough of the fuckers for me not to trust them.

Pumperthepumper · 24/01/2018 23:31

Rufus we could extend it to all crimes too - all crimes are committed by people, regardless of circumstance and that’s a FACT.

Pumperthepumper · 24/01/2018 23:38

I’ve found relief’s quote, it’s from the telegraph. Did you even read the report? Did you even read this article? Here’s the bit your quote missed out:

They do not take into account the new offence of coercive and controlling behaviour, which came into effect in 2015, the ONS said.

"New survey questions to better estimate experiences of this type of abuse have been introduced into the survey from April 2017 and estimates from these questions will be available in 2018," it said in its report.

Professor Nicole Westmarland, director of the Durham University Centre for Research into Violence and Abuse, said the change could lead to the downward trend being reversed.

She said: "The ways in which domestic abuse is perpetrated may be changing, with physical abuse becoming more and more socially unacceptable, and new opportunities for abuse opening up with the development of new technologies and forms of social media.

"Excluding sexual violence by partners and ex-partners and not properly measuring coercive and controlling behaviours means that a large proportion of domestic abuse is being hidden.

"If these were included we would see an increase, particularly in terms of the abuse of women."

The ONS suggested that the inclusion of the coercive control figures could also widen the gap between men and women.

Weird article to pick since it directly disagrees with your point, but I think that’s probably because you couldn’t find one that says ‘male violence isn’t an issue, this is as good as it’s going to get because of history or something’.

OnTheList · 24/01/2018 23:43

A woman has never sexually harassed or assaulted me.. But men have. So it's #notallmen but pretty much enough of the fuckers for me not to trust them.

Ahh but sexual assault doesn't count for some reason. We are supposed to ignore that so that the figure of men committing violence goes down a bit.

This is such a ridiculous argument really. Male violence is male violence. Against women and against men. Yes, some women are also violent, but its still mainly men who commit violence (and sexual violence, no reason to discount that)

OnTheList · 24/01/2018 23:45

all crimes are committed by people,

Yes. And most violence is committed by men. But you seem to have issues accepting that fact..why?

Rollonweekend · 25/01/2018 02:00

*Personally I see women as the bigger problem.

Most males are brought up by women, so therefore women are the root problem.*

Nice way to blame women yet again.... how about their fathers should be teaching them how to behave?!!

Jesus!

Marilla27 · 25/01/2018 02:08

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5plusMeAndHim · 25/01/2018 02:27

lanakane
Black people commit more violent crime than any other race.so is it alright to demonize black people as a class.is it alright to say black people as a class are responsible for not dealing with it? Similarly are all Muslims responsible for terrorism? That is what you are saying about men as a class- they are all responsible for not sorting put the wronguns

5plusMeAndHim · 25/01/2018 02:28

Incidentally a third of dv is committed by women

ArmySal · 25/01/2018 02:32

I'm aware this will be deleted, but

only the other day at school I heard some woman say that she was glad she had two daughters and 'no rapists'

A) Which cave do you live in to hear something like that, and

B) Bollocks you did.

changeAtAnyTime · 25/01/2018 03:55

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Kursk · 25/01/2018 04:23

It is very fashionable to hate men at the moment.

Yes. Yes it is, but it won’t last a new hate target will appear soon

bridgetoc · 25/01/2018 04:33

No offence ArmySal, but your coming across as a little bit unhinged......... Are you o.k? Flowers

ArmySal · 25/01/2018 04:39

All is well bridgetoc, you little sock.

How is PriScilla?

ArmySal · 25/01/2018 04:40

Clearly a sock, 'you're' both a little thick...

bridgetoc · 25/01/2018 04:43

Priscilla? I don't get it..........

You should not allow other posters to wind you up so much. That is what they want.

bridgetoc · 25/01/2018 04:44

I'm really confused now.......

ArmySal · 25/01/2018 04:44

Sure thing, sock 👌🏼

bridgetoc · 25/01/2018 04:46

Sock?