To question whether we are actually in the midst of a New World Order?

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As above (at the risk of sounding tin foil hat) and if we're not, what the hell is going on in the world, what's causing it?

I’ve found that have a child with extra needs has made me feel safer. Because I have proven in a substantial way that I am definitely capable as I had to be signed off by staff that I know what I am doing. Therefore they like that I am saving the NHS money and I am left alone. I also have staff in my house regularly enough (which I sometimes feel worried about if it isn’t clean enough etc) but have been reassured that due to having a child with extra needs things can be left due to being tired etc so again I seem to worry less. Before she was born though I was extremely terrified and have unfortunately become crippled with anxiety and cannot let my hair down.

There won't be a revolution. Nobody can agree what they're fighting against. More than half of the poor want a more right-wing country. Brainwashing is certainly happening right now.

There won't be a revolution. Nobody can agree what they're fighting against. More than half of the poor want a more right-wing country. Brainwashing is certainly happening right now.

Yeah, because obviously anybody who disagrees with you is brainwashed. It's not the right wing who are suppressing free speech and censoring everything.

When people vote against their own best interests you have to assume there is an element of brainwashing going on. Anyway, I know it is, I've turned on the TV lately.

"When people vote against their own best interests you have to assume there is an element of brainwashing going on."

Or, more likely, that the issues are complex and the average voter can't be expected to have uni-level understanding of macroeconomy and international trade laws, for example.

Are you agreeing with me that people with little education or understanding of things are easy to manipulate? Congratulations on working that one out.

NLP is easy to see through, it's hardly brainwashing.

as for increased bizarreness - ever increasing population levels, especially at the rate we have, is bound to lead to increased crazy.

The new world order you are sensing is the emergence of China (quietly) Russia (not so quietly) and countries that are now challenging the status quo post ww2

The US is being challenged on many fronts, and as their closest allies that has influence here.

Combine that with the breaking down of political authority, youth disaffection and a growing sense of unease with capitalism and globalisation, we are in fact in transition.

Even if the final outcome remains unseen, it started with the credit crisis in 2008 and the arab spring and it has some way to go.

I couldn’t have afforded for my child to have a heart transplant in a country where you pay for medical care for example.

But you could have had it done free and with better chance of a good outcome in France or Germany and the governments there would have paid less too:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/4a009b68-7cf1-11e7-9108-edda0bcbc928

Russia (not so quietly) and countries that are now challenging the status quo post ww2

Russia is a declining country with the 17th biggest economy in the world and doesn't have the money to be a threat to anybody.

China is a peaceful society who are investing worldwide and have an interest in maintaining peace because it underpins their financial progress.

If you think Russia and China are any sort of threat you've been listening to too much scaremongering coming out of the Democrats.

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I am not American and do not listen to the democrats, however I am watching with interest the huge and expanding military presence of China. China isa peaceful, for now anyway.

Russia has been very influential in Syria and the middle east, much more than at any time in the past.

Other leaders and countries are also challenging the status quo - Trump, Austria, Hungary. I could go on.

I'm concerned about, the fear. We are in fear of the authorities and that's something I never thought I would ever feel in this country.
But couldn't that be because YOU are reading dodgy websites, listening to unfounded opinions from relatives and generally indulging in scaremongering? Plenty of people don't see things the way you do. Step away from the internet!

lots of other countries provide better healthcare for less money

Untrue. Not lots by any definition.

Pretty much all developed countries, though.

Are you agreeing with me that people with little education or understanding of things are easy to manipulate? Congratulations on working that one out.

Yeah, most people who vote labour have little understanding of politics as whole

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41349409

www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/oct/us-health-care-from-a-global-perspective

The U.S. spends more on healthcare than any other country — but not with better health outcomes

www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-healthcare-comparison-20170715-htmlstory.html

No, but we are living in late capitalism. The wealth and power of Europe is giving way to new centres of global trade and growth.

There are loads of books that explain what is happening without recourse to tinfoil hats. I'd particularly recommend stuff from the Marxist tradition - Jason Moore's Capitalism in the Web of Life is good.

No, but we are living in late capitalism. The wealth and power of Europe is giving way to new centres of global trade and growth.

That is very true.

We have to reckon with China, in particular, but not only.

I don't think most people realise the economic (and probably political) influence that China has in less developed countries, and not only.

And the increasing gap between the rich and the poorest (not countries, but in many western societies) is opening the way for more extremist politics (be it right or left). It explains the increased polarization we are witnessing, which may be more evident in extreme-right movements, but also in what was previously more extreme left too.

And what do people think about 9/11, Diana's death and similar theories? Or am I heading even nearer to that tin foil hat which dh has waiting for me?

I am not American and do not listen to the democrats, however I am watching with interest the huge and expanding military presence of China. China isa peaceful, for now anyway.

So weapons are okay as long as they're our weapons? There was the idea of a global hegemony where the US as the dominant state kept the peace. They rather screwed that up by invading the fuck out of everybody and using espionage to destabilise states. Personally I welcome the arrival of another strong state which can keep the US in check. They're already forcing the US to act peacefully in regards to N Korea.

And if you are buying into the whole 'OMGZ Russia is scareh' crap you are listening to the Democrats even if you don't know it. Russia is not powerful. They have little military clout and no money to improve it.

I don't think most people realise the economic (and probably political) influence that China has in less developed countries, and not only.

Do you realise how much money China are investing in this country? It's not in their interests to have a war with us. They are increasing their power and influence through peaceful means and will probably be in the sort of hegemonic position the US used to be in within a couple of decades.

I quite like that idea. They do proper left wing politics and not the distorted identity politics liberal bullshit that passes for the left wing here.

Russia is a declining country with the 17th biggest economy in the world and doesn't have the money to be a threat to anybody

You have to invade quickly and beat them by snow fall. Nothing to it really.

You have to invade quickly and beat them by snow fall. Nothing to it really.

Yeah, that went really well for Hitler eh?

There won't be a revolution. Nobody can agree what they're fighting against. More than half of the poor want a more right-wing country. Brainwashing is certainly happening right now
Perhaps because the left are busy pitting everyone against eachother & dividing everyone into groups. I find the far left Labour Party in this country has the same strokes of anti-semitism as the Nationalist Socialist Party, you know the party which banned human zoos & freed black & Asian people from them, recognised Palestine as a state & wanted to free them from the Jews? In fact there are a lot of similarities between labour & the Nazis moreso than the Nazis & any other party.

You have to invade quickly and beat them by snow fall.

There's the tiny detail of their nuclear arsenal, though.