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All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)

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badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:57

A nod to Banzai there for old timers like me.

Old thread here.

Question is, is it Mueller time yet? Anyone fancy placing a bet on when Trump will exit the POTUS role?

My bet: 20 March 2019.

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cozietoesie · 22/01/2018 18:30

I'm going to have to go back and re-read it properly. Some meaty issues.

cozietoesie · 22/01/2018 19:24

And this man intends/intended to speak, at length, at Davos?

AcrossthePond55 · 22/01/2018 19:41

CR passed by the Senate has no DACA provisions/guarantees. It still needs to pass the house. Nancy Pelosi says she will vote no. I haven't seen/heard anything about any other Dem Reps, but based on the make-up of the House, I don't think they'll need many (if any) Dem votes. I'm very upset that Senate Dems have caved, even though I understand why they did.

On a personal note, the CR, if passed, expires in 3 weeks and then it starts all over again. We're supposed to be headed to Yosemite in 4 weeks for some caravan camping.

cozietoesie · 22/01/2018 19:44

You have a backup plan?

Lweji · 22/01/2018 19:49

From the defiance disorder article:

"Priebus knew the staff would have to fall into line to prove the tweet correct, the opposite of the usual process of vetting proposed pronouncements," Kurtz writes. "Once the president had committed to 140 characters, he was not going to back off."

One word springs to mind: enablers.

They didn't have to prove the tweet correct. They could simply tell reporters to ask the President and let him prove it.
Or walk away. So, as it stands, they are complicit.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 19:49

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Behind closed doors today, Merkley was NOT happy w deal Dems agreed to, I'm told, saying GOP got way too much and extracted too little; Feinstein also raised concerns about why she voted against bill to keep govt open Friday. Why couldn't they resolve this Friday, she asked?

Lweji · 22/01/2018 19:51

ginandtonicformeplease

If you pop in Lisbon en route some of my colleagues might be able to provide the bugs. With any luck, some actual mosquitoes.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 19:53

This is what happens when his enablers permit the smallest slither of reality to intrude into trump’s world

VANITY FAIR
@VanityFair
BREAKING: Ivanka Trump is leading the search to replace John Kelly, reports

“I’ve Got Another Nut Job Here Who Thinks He’s Running Things”: Are Trump and Kelly Heading for Divorce?

With the president and his chief of staff arguing in public, Ivanka Trump takes charge of finding a replacement.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/are-trump-and-kelly-heading-for-divorce/amp?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 19:56

More circus shenanigans

Axios
Axios
@axios
White House after @axios story about Wilbur Ross's loss of favor with Trump: Trump "loves Wilbur"

www.axios.com/white-house-trump-will-go-to-davos-1516649183-d72a29ce-38cc-48b6-8212-0fed2fae6d70.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 19:57

But actually significant:

Pennsylvania Supreme Court Gives Democrats a Boost in 2018 Midterms

The court threw out Republican-drawn congressional maps and ordered new maps drawn.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/pennsylvania-supreme-court-gives-democrats-a-boost-in-2018-midterms/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 20:00

This one’s for you cozie

White House: Trump's Davos trip still on 'if all things go as expected'

www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/22/is-trump-going-to-davos-switzerland-357324?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 22/01/2018 20:05

Has the best words etc ...

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 20:09

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke Held Onto Undisclosed Shares In Gun Company

It's unclear exactly how much Zinke's shares in PROOF Research Inc. are worth, but his relationship to the Montana company raises questions of access.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a60e1fae4b0b3f7fa12c397/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&ncid=engmodushpmg00000004&__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 20:10

SLight detour but wtf

Andrew #FBPE #ABTV
@AndrewStoneman
American poultry workers have to wear diapers because they are not allowed toilet breaks. Let that sink in. This is the sort of “no red tape” working environment the Brexiters want. They also want to import that (chlorine laden) chicken for you to eat. #r4today

lionheart · 22/01/2018 20:10

That's for sure.

On Miller.

'Stephen Bannon may have left the White House, but anti-immigrant nativism didn't go anywhere.'

www.splcenter.org/news/2017/09/22/weekend-read-trumps-anti-immigrant-crusader

Lweji · 22/01/2018 20:14

"welcomes opportunities to advance his America First agenda with world leaders."

Only if they decide to have an America Fuck-off agenda.

How is he going to sell it?

Give me your best people. Buy all of our goods and sell nothing to us. Sell us your materials for a pitance but don't expect any aid?

lionheart · 22/01/2018 20:15

And for silliness (and because it it true).

All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 20:20

Russia is biggest threat to UK since cold war, says head of British army
Gen Sir Nick Carter gives stark warning of ‘complex and capable security challenge’ for Nato

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/22/russia-is-biggest-threat-since-cold-war-says-head-of-british-army?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 22/01/2018 20:22

'Donald Trump’s relationship with John Kelly, his chief of staff, fraught from the beginning, may finally have gone past the point of no return. Two prominent Republicans in frequent contact with the White House told me that Trump has discussed choosing Kelly’s successor in recent days, asking a close friend what he thought about David Urban, a veteran Washington lobbyist and political operative who helped engineer Trump’s victory in Pennsylvania. Ivanka is also playing a central role in the search, quietly field-testing ideas with people. “Ivanka is the most worried about it. She’s trying to figure who replaces Kelly,” a person who’s spoken with her said.'

www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/are-trump-and-kelly-heading-for-divorce?mbid=social_twitter

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/01/2018 20:23

Manu Raju
Manu Raju
@mkraju
Trump sends out fundraising solicitation with the subject line: “Democrats CAVED”

Lweji · 22/01/2018 20:26

Speaking of America First, the trade deficit with Mexico was bigger in 2017 than 2016.
www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

lionheart · 22/01/2018 20:28

time

All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)