Why are MEN being offered Cervical Cancer Screening...

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What is going on in this country?

If you are registered as a female with your GP you are being offered screenings...even if you don't possess the organ.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/14/women-identify-men-not-offered-routine-nhs-breast-cancer-screening/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623309/Transgender_cross_programme_screening_leaflet.pdf

Yes I was referring to Lily Madigan who has made public statements with those claims. I'm not bullying anyone thanks. You on the other hand are quite aggressive and clearly not as clued up on this issue as you seem to think.

@stitchglitch sooooo.... source? Where has she said that? When? Youy can't just make a ridiculous claim like that without any proof.

When did Lily Madigan ever say that she, as a transwoman, could now become pregnant?

Prove your claims before thoughtlessly posting them and calling other people "not clued up". Thanks.

@stitchglitched (sorry for misspelling your name) I assume either you're lying or have fallen for a satirical or fake and unfunny news source. Good job!

I’ve had a google and there was a tweet where Lily Madigan said she could get pregnant. But it’s not on her official account anymore and it looks like it’s possibly from a fake account so may be fake news. But happy to be proven wrong on that. I just can’t find anything that convinced me it’s real right now

So first you tell people off for using the term transsexual before backtracking because you didn't realise it was the preferred term of some transwomen. Then you argue against the definition of transgender from another poster who is using Stonewall's own definition. A cursory google wouldn't hurt before you accuse the next person of lying. Try reading LM's twitter feed.

You're right, there was a tweet, here it is:

twitter.com/madigan_lily/status/947613356386594816

Seems the context is "with future tech".

I apologise @stitchglitched - you were right, and I was wrong. it's a very silly tweet but there is some context there.

condepetie , what is it about what maryz is saying that puzzles you? She doesn't identify as female, and a woman; these are indesputable biological facts. You can't identify yourself out of it. Gender is a social construct. I am a woman, I am female because I was born with xx chromosomes. I don't identify with any gender because it's a load of tosh. I don't feel like a woman, just like myself. I don't actively 'not conform' to sex stereotypes; I couldn't appear masculine if I tried, but have very traditionally male dominated hobbies. I have had relationships with both men and women. But by dint of actual, factual biology I consider the issues facing women as a class my look out.

Is that at me? I haven’t said anything about transsexual/transgender terms?

It wasn't a fake account, it was the same account LM is currently using to promote their political activities. The tweet may have been deleted but their were plenty of screenshots.

@stitchglitched I am happy to admit when I am wrong and learn from my mistakes. Something that a lot of people could also learn to do. It's not backtracking - it's learning.

So if you register as a women, despite having male biology, you will not be reminded of male health imperatives? Will you be entitled to have those tests if you need them? If you aren't reminded because your registered female but you are diagnosed with prostate cancer do you get to sue the NHS because they didn't remind you to test even though you registered female?

And if you are a female who identifies as a male, will you no longer be reminded - or even eligible - for female health tests?

Will everyone be entitled to both male and female tests?

Well Lily did say "I can get pregnant", although they do seem to be referring to potential future medical advances rather than anything less medicalised.

@Booboobooboo84 my sympathies to people who suffer gender dysphoria.

But it's a man. I'm not sensationalising. I'm stating a fact, whether or not you choose to accept that is up to you. And I'd say the very same about the opposite... it's a woman.

I think reminders are in the system because it costs more to treat cancer than to prevent it or treatment with early detection. Opt out would be good, but as admitted people miss it even with the reminders. I think it's better to be reminded, because it's not something we routinely think about in our daily lives.

The tweet is still there, which is how I just found it.

@booboo no, it's at me.

@AdultHumanFemale because I consider "identifying as a woman" to mean "calling myself a woman". If someone asks me what my gender is, I say "a woman". That is identifying myself as a woman. I do identify both as female and as a woman. That's part of my identity. I have female privilege. I identify strongly as female.

Ah see stitch I don’t put much hold by screenshots. Too easy to manipulate. But looks like there was one where it references technology making it a future possibility. The pic of the screenshot I saw is different from her current pic. So in that case I always err on the side of caution. But like I said always happy to be proved wrong

Well then OP here’s nothing more to say to you if that’s your views on it. We could go back and forth all night and not convince each other.

@pallisers this is where i had hoped this thread would have gone...

More discussions along these lines and the implications for all this.

I have enjoyed this thread - thank you OP and the other people who I've spoken with! It's been a more civilised discussion than I'd expect, excusing some posters. Goodnight guys.

Booboobooboo84 - you can check yourself. Just go on to Lily's twitter account, scroll down to their tweets on 1st Jan 2018 and...there it is.

Don't try blurring and obsfucating reality by using "fake news".

"@stitchglitch Are you talking about Lily Madigan, the teenage woman "

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

He's a heterosexual bloke. With a penis. And a girlfriend.

Who got upset about women-only events a few years back. Now he takes the piss and so are you.

And further down that feed 'I'm happy I can get pregnant'.

The point I was making was that you can't necessarily rely on people understanding the reality of their biology so accurate screening invitations are important.

Lily Madigan meets no current legal definition of woman. Self ID has not yet been made into law.

Pers I wasn’t trying any of the above. I said clearly above that I googled it and nothing I saw convinced me so in my opinion it was possibly fake news but that I was happy to be proven wrong. The only news reports I saw weren’t from mainstream media. Which is a big fake news sign. Sorry that my willingness to be proved wrong has offended you so.

nobody has yet come up with an objective definition pursuant to which Lily/Liam Madigan is a woman.