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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

But I DO want another referendum

161 replies

Hairyhat · 11/01/2018 22:16

AIBU? According to Nigel Farage, I am. Nick Clegg, I'm not. Please can we just have another vote to see?

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girlwithadragontattoo · 12/01/2018 10:25

I wish we could have the vote again. I'm living outside the UK but in an EU country and i don't know what's going to happen to me when we do eventually leave

Justanotherlurker · 12/01/2018 10:26

I just wish David Cameron had never promised a referendum in the first place. Another stupid Tory decision that went tits up!

Its not as though he was expecting the lose though was it, there has been promises of a referendum for a few decades now and the momentum would have carried on building where UKIP could have become a serious political party.

And lets not forget that we pretty much had a second referendum at the last GE, both Labour and Tory pledged to carry out the vote, and lets not forget JC very anti EU stance throughout his whole career, the only pro EU party was Libdem and they had a terrible showing.

passthecremeeggs · 12/01/2018 10:27

They going to re run general elections as you dont like the vote

Good idea. We could do it once every few years!

Grin
yorkshireyummymummy · 12/01/2018 10:29

72.1% turnout voted . Bigger than any general election.

Don’t keep spouting about it being advisory. EVERY general elections result is only advisory until the head of state [ so ATM , HMThe Queen] ratifies it.

To people who say we didn’t know what we were voting for the question was “ should the United Kingdom leave the European Union or remain in the European Union” . If you don’t understand that then you shouldn’t be voting.
We didn’t vote on anything which was written on a bus. We voted on a single question. Ultimately nobody knew or knows what will happen when we leave. We will just have to wait and see.
The vote to leave was won by more than 1.27 million votes. It’s not as if it was 1000 votes which would be a close result.
Banging on about another vote is a waste of time. Shouldn’t we all just accept the democratic result and suck it up?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 12/01/2018 10:33

We voted on a single question. Ultimately nobody knew or knows what will happen when we leave. We will just have to wait and see

Then what the fuck could anyone's reason to vote Leave have been?

tiggytape · 12/01/2018 10:39

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Gottagetmoving · 12/01/2018 10:44

Thing is, we don't need another vote. Parliament can reject the referendum result. They just don't dare.

mummmy2017 · 12/01/2018 10:47

I wanted to leave the EU.
To stop the onward creep of EU rules and their bigger and bigger demands for money and power.
Sorry I know you don't like me saying this, but the EU was supposed to be a Trade Partner, not the be all and end all with this ever closer union.
I knew it was going to be hard, but there have been many times the UK has been on it's uppers and it has recovered, and right now life isn't great it's hand to mouth for so many people, so if it can't get worse then why not get rid of the EU and when recovery does come we won't have to give all the profits away...
As was said by Blair, TIme for a Change.

mummmy2017 · 12/01/2018 10:48

The only Difference is leavers voted for Brexit.
In the GE you saw people vote for Labour.

whattoweartomorrow · 12/01/2018 11:02

I think a sensible way to have done it would have been: first referendum is yes/no, then once final terms have been agreed there will be a second one and people can vote with a realistic sense of what they are voting for.

The problem is, if they'd done that it would have been impossible in a way as you'd almost guarantee a leave vote- people would want to see what was behind box number two- and the negotiating would be likely to be more harsh to properly scare people from the alternatives.

Theoretically, I don't think anything is wrong with a second vote: in practise, I think it could come close to stirring up proper civil unrest. Unless it was led by a leaver like Farage, and Boris et al, saying we're so confident in this deal we think it will pass a referendum and if it doesn't we want to wait fifteen years then try again. But that realistically isn't going to happen.

In ten years time, I genuinely believe there is a strong chance the UK will be broken up, one way or another. I would not choose personally to live in the England that is left after that. But it will be another opportunity to re-examine many of these issues.

polaricecaps · 12/01/2018 11:10

Thing is, we don't need another vote. Parliament can reject the referendum result. They just don't dare.

This. As much as I'd like to feel vindicated by another vote swaying to remain, I'd rather the people in charge had assessed and explained it better to start with to avoid the whole shitty mess we've ended up in

TammySwansonTwo · 12/01/2018 11:32

mummy you think it can't get any worse?! It bloody well can.

MissionItsPossible · 12/01/2018 12:00

Thing is, we don't need another vote. Parliament can reject the referendum result. They just don't dare.

Great! And at the next General Election, should Labour win, the Conservative government can reject it.

specialsubject · 12/01/2018 12:00

It was never and will never be a simple yes or no. Way too complex. Too late now anyway, they won't let us back.

Gottagetmoving · 12/01/2018 12:01

Great! And at the next General Election, should Labour win, the Conservative government can reject it

Errm,...no...an election is not a referendum.

Amanduh · 12/01/2018 12:08

Oh ffs not this again. Farage.. The Bus...anyone who voted remain was thick and didnt understand... NHS... advisory... it shouldnt be binding unless it goes the way of remain...has anyone mentioned immigration yet? Oh full house bingo ding ding ding!

shhhfastasleep · 12/01/2018 12:14

Farage just wants to be in the papers again and to endorse his position as UK specialist on Fox News (boak).
We are stuck with this stupid vote and have to live with the consequences of its stupidity.

MissionItsPossible · 12/01/2018 12:15

Errm,...no...an election is not a referendum.

Who said it was?

Gottagetmoving · 12/01/2018 12:18

Who said it was?

No one....but your post was irrelevant if you know it isn't.

QuinionsRainbow · 12/01/2018 12:22

We are stuck with this stupid vote and have to live with the consequences of its stupidity.
Not necessarily, if we all pressure hard for another referendum. Wish of the people and all that.

TimeforCupcakes · 12/01/2018 12:25

Nope. Democracy has spoken the first time round. You can't keep wanting another referendum just because you didn't get the result you wanted. That isn't how democracy works.

Gottagetmoving · 12/01/2018 12:31

That isn't how democracy works
Nor is misleading people or allowing a referendum when most people had no clue what they were voting for.
It was a political move by Cameron...and it backfired on him...we were pawns in his stupid tactics.

MissionItsPossible · 12/01/2018 12:38

If there is another referendum (I hope to god not) I hope that its Leave at 70%+ just for people to STFU and get over it.

shhhfastasleep · 12/01/2018 12:58

We got our sovrin'ey back, apparently. I won't shut the fuck up about how it's a dog's breakfast. Live with it.

BigBaboonBum · 12/01/2018 13:01

I think it should be redone purely because people have more of an idea what we’re actually voting for this time. It should be given on grounds of last time being a farce because nobody had a clue what they were doing.

But then again, if this was a thing I think people would want another general election also, ha 🧐

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