To think the no pubes thing is a trend....

[inmyshoos]

My previous career had me seeing people's genitals on a daily basis. Most had full pubic hair. Now I can see (mostly on naked attraction) that fully shaved is the fashion.
But was slightly surprised when a 50 something friend of mine said he prefers shaven as I assumed he would be less 'trendy' like me with my 80s stylefanny
Is it just a personal preference?? In my day at work it was defo rare to see fully shaved. Out of 20 people you'd be lucky if 2 were bald!

Can’t we just do whatever the fuck we like with our own pubes let it be smooth let whoever wants to braid theirs do so 😂 I cannot think of any reason why someone else’s pubes should be my buisness

Agree it's a personal pref thing. Start telling my 10 year old she should shave her pubes and I will have some choice words for you.

bows back to Bernard*

shhhfastasleep, that's right, you do you and I'll do me. If you though then start blethering on that I shouldn't be doing something with my own body, whilst doing a similar-but-not-quite-the-same-thing yourself then I will rightly challenge you. I don't care what you do with your body, I don't even have an opinion on it. The hair removing posters don't seem to feel strongly about what other people do, strangely enough.

Regarding your 10 year old, you don't own her and unless you're going to hover over her for the rest of her life then you will not have the influence that you'd like to think you will have. Even her peers now will be talking about this topic. I have a daughter myself and I will be telling her to think for herself - if it feels wrong then it probably is but that she shouldn't be led by anybody else - men or women. The porn message is insidious, I won't argue with you about that, but I will say that in my opinion, making hypocritical comments and trying to dictate to other women, will not get it done.

There's a poster here, HoofSpangleCunt (or similar, I think I've missed a word?) but anyway, she's very eloquent about feminism. Tempers it with commonsense, tolerance and kindness though, and very patient when making a point. I applaud her because whilst I'm apparently a dreadful excuse for a feminist, she makes me think and want to know more.

Lyin, seriously, I don't care what you do with your pubes but I am concerned about society pressuring my 10 year old to shave/wax pubic area. If she wants to , that's fine by me but not if she is bullied into it by people telling her it's cleaner and she will have a better sex life and otherwise people will reject her as a sexual partner. That's all bollocks.

As for hovering over her and telling her what to do .. what a silly idea. Who does that?

shhhfastasleep, again, I don't disagree with you but society actually has little impact in my opinion. There are all sorts of things that society either damns or promotes and plenty of people either do or do not do these things. When it comes down to it, people will do what they want to do.

It's not bullying for somebody to have an opinion that removing pubic hair is cleaner. I personally think it is - for myself, for my chemistry, for my body - and I don't apply that to anybody else. Ditto improved sex life, it's what I think and I don't mind or care what anybody else does. I'd never comment on whether a sexual partner would be interested or not because again, it's not my business.

Your saying 'That's all bollocks', does not make it so. It's just your opinion.

I thought shaved was now out and bushy is now back in fashion. I have read it in a few articles in magazines and internet. It's supposed to show you are sexually mature and fertile (I.e. not too young and not too old).

It's also the shock factor - trying to be different to everyone else is definitely the way to go. Everyone was bald so now the fashion is to be bushy again!

The other day I was feeling sorry for those had permanently lasered off their pubes as pubes are now trendy again!

Each to their own really.

I definitely prefer bushy though (having done both) it looks sexier I think.

Personally, I will be glad when a more natural look, is back in fashion.

Some very young girls are so over groomed with make-up like a mask, that they look like they should be on the stage.
As far as personal grooming is concerned, each to their own.

Be in fashion, be out of fashion, who cares!

I have ended up not shaving at all since trying to reduce all plastic waste. I'm too scared to try a safety razor so I have just stopped. Is it a 1960s look? When did women start shaving their legs, armpits & genitals?

It’s not “personal preference” it’s inequality: pressure on women and girls to remove hair or face social disapproval.

@Strawberrybubblebath
I also think hair is sexier and if it weren't for the porn trend (where shaving was introduced to allow for clearer visuals), I actually think both men and women would instinctively find it sexier.

The reason being its all about contrast, in the way that intricate lingerie with lots of different strappy bits, choker style straps etc, is.

Visually there's the contrast between the hair and the paler skin, there's the "veiling" aspect and then there's just the contrasting textures between hair and skin.

It’s not “personal preference” it’s inequality: pressure on women and girls to remove hair or face social disapproval

I very strongly believe that no woman should be pressurised into any hair removal (wherever on the body).

But to say it's not personal preference isn't always accurate. Today I've got unshaven armpits and legs, wore no makeup but have a hair free pubic region. It absolutely is personal preference for me.

GlitterUnicorns

I totally agree that pubic hair is aesthetically more pleasing to the eye.

More of a contrast as you say, between white skin and hidden regions.
A bit of mystery instead of right there in your face, so to speak.

Think it's becoming more the norm. remembers when a young Ds1 told me he was Going to be hairfree, like Beckham and Ronaldo!!

I don't disagree with you but society actually has little impact in my opinion. There are all sorts of things that society either damns or promotes and plenty of people either do or do not do these things. When it comes down to it, people will do what they want to do.

I think that is quite a naive statement. Society, and social norms, whatever they happen to be at that point in time, have a huge influence on what people do / find acceptable / unacceptable.
The poster who has worries about social pressures on her daughter to look a certain way has a valid point. You can't dismiss that with a 'I do exactly what I want and so does everyone else and we are all totally autonomous and in control, and are not at risk of being pressured into anything' . It is far too simplistic.
My daughter is 14 and chatting with her over looks, make-up, pubic hair etc etc...there is a 'norm' within her age group of how girls THINK they should look. I am fortunate that she is a pretty strong character and likes not wearing make-up, wearing jeans and trainers, but from talking to her there is definitely a pressure to look a certain way. A lot of her friends are 'identikit' - fake tan, false eyelashes, hair pieces, trying to dress and look older than their years. Pressure exists, and lots of people succumb to it.

Oops...'Bold' fail.

Oh what job was that? I have been considering a career move...

'I'm late 20s and have always had varying degrees of full bush with a bikini line wax so as not to scare other swimmers.'

But can you see that thinking of your pubic hair as scary is weird, Hathaway?
Also, anyone who thinks they are not affected by societal pressures must live off-grid....so probably wouldn't be on here....

On medical tv shows they say without exception that pubic hair protects your bits from infection and is there for a reason. So for those who feel cleaner, in reality you’re not.

Yes - pubic hair provides SOME defence against STI's. If you have sex with someone who is infected, and you and they are both bald you are more likely to have it transmitted to you than if you had hair.

It's only "new" in western world. Women in eastern countries e.g. India due to heat. Prevents irritation and of course in poor living conditions infections, lice,, etc. How clean do we need to be? As much as the marketing of beauty products businesses, sex articles dictates.

well said Glitterunicorn

As I recall, there are some particularly funny Amazon reviews of something like Nair.......

It's VEET for men.
Some are priceless. Here's a sample....

www.amazon.co.uk/review/R3GDDEL1SC1QQ5?tag=mumsnetforum-21

As my 12 year old dd just shouted "you need pubic hair!" to keep it healthy. My attitude is very much as long as it's not sticking out of the side of your bikini "let it grow, let it grow, don't wax it off anymore"...