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He is the very model of a Very Stable Genius: Trump cont

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PerkingFaintly · 08/01/2018 23:23

We rushed out of the last thread without even a pocket handkerchief: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a3124599-Trump-2018-Resistance-is-Never-Futile

So here's a new one, with its own

I am the very model of a Very Stable Genius.
I have a mighty button and no problems with my penius.
I have no time for television, golf or social media
Since my brain is way way better than the best encyclopedia.

I'm cutting tax, I'll build a wall, I'll take away their medicare
You can trust me 'cos I'm orange and I have the most amazing hair.
So with my total ignorance of matters heterogeneous
I am the very model of a Very Stable Genius!

Compared to other leaders, my behavior's quite unusual
My twisted tweets and pissed-on sheets have managed to amuse you all
I have to drink two-handed 'cause my fingers are the teeniest
I need a sippy-cup with the inscription "Stable Genius."

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lionheart · 10/01/2018 09:31

Some questions about the press especially the NYT and their decision to pretend they did not know some of the questions raised by Steele.

lionheart · 10/01/2018 09:33

A profile of Feinstein from last year, but wow.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/dianne-feinstein-versus-donald-trump/

lionheart · 10/01/2018 09:34

The Lioness in Winter
'Dianne Feinstein survived childhood abuse, assassination attempts, and a brutal fight with the CIA. Now it’s time to take on Trump.'

lionheart · 10/01/2018 09:38

'Donald Trump has sought to strike a harmonious note on immigration reform, suggesting a “bill of love” to protect young undocumented immigrants in the spirit of bipartisanship, while standing by hardline demands Democrats have dismissed as dealbreakers.'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-dreamers-daca-deal-wall-demands-a8150431.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 09:43

And people wonder why Labour are not miles ahead in the polls, despite their opposition being the biggest shitshow in town

Cllr Tom Bewick‏
@Lab_Westbourne
There are now 13 million Labour voters (5 million more than under Blair); 4 million of them are pro Brexit and ex-UKIP. The party can afford to lose a few liberal snow flakes here and there if it delivers a socialist government, free of the neo-liberal #EU.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 09:47

Mike Galsworthy #FBPE‏
@mikegalsworthy
87% of Labour members want Single Market. That’s thumping.

[Data from new large study by Queen Mary University] #FBPE

He is the very model of a Very Stable Genius: Trump cont
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 09:50

Eep, sorry! Wrong thread

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 09:58

Re: the man who tried to orchestrate ceasing sanctions against Russia a per the Daily Beast article:

Natasha Bertrand
‏*@NatashaBertrand*

This official, Kevin Harrington, is still on the NSC.

Minimammoth · 10/01/2018 10:05

I am imagining a ‘ Fitness for Presidency’ training with NVQ competencies, and National Occupational Standard.[ big grin]

PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2018 10:33

Always interesting to have a bit of cross-fertilisation, Pain. Especially given the same parties were string-pulling in Brexit and in the US elections.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 10:41

Abramson's thread is a good one but the some of the bits that jumped out at me (having yet to read the transcript) were:

Seth Abramson
‏*@SethAbramson*
49/ Simpson won't reveal any client names, but says that he and Fusion GPS began work on Trump's myriad U.S. and overseas business dealings—which have been an issue many people have wanted and tried to research for decades, not simply in 2015—in "September or October of 2015."
50/ This timeline is key: it means Fusion worked for Republicans for 9 months before the Dems ever got involved, and the initial reason for the course of investigation Fusion embarked upon was a general view Trump could be successful as a politician—so oppo was reasonable.
51/ This completely undercuts the Republican narrative and Trump's—that what started Fusion GPS looking at Trump was a Democratic interest in making Russia a story. No. In 2015—before anyone was talking about Trump-Russia ties—Fusion GPS was asked to look at his business deals.

And

58/ The Republicans take one in the gut: Trump's business partner—Sater—is connected to the same crime family Simpson became an expert on in working for Prevezon's law firm, so even the Trump-sanctions tie in the dossier originated nine months before any Democrats were involved.

As it happens, Felix Sater was, you know, connected to the same Russian crime family that was at issue in the Prevezon case, which is the dominant Russian crime family in Russia and has a robust U.S. presence and is involved in a lot of crime and criminal activity in the United States and for many years was the -- the leader of this family was on the FBI most wanted list and lives

59/ Simpson notes the crime family Sater is connected to is linked to Russian natural-gas pipeline issues—so now the Trump-Russia energy tie was already in play nine months before any Democrats were involved.

You know, Russian organized crime is very different from Italian organized crime. It's much more sort of a hybrid kind of thing where they're involved in politics and banking and there's even a lot of connections between the mafia and the KGB or the FSB and cyber crime, things that the Italians sort of never figured out. Stock fraud in particular was the big thing in the U.S. In any event, all of that entered into my thinking when I saw that Donald Trump was in business with Felix Sater in the Trump Soho project and a number of other controversial condo projects.

And

83/ Simpson implies that Christopher Steele, as the former "lead Russianist for MI6"—a wholly accurate claim, to be clear—knew how to recognize and filter out disinformation coming from Russia basically better than anyone on Earth. Let me repeat that: better than anyone on Earth.

So too were Russian political figures and Russian intelligence (FSB).

And

87/ Here's a key summary, by Simpson, of what human intelligence (HUMINT) is, and how someone who specializes in that type of information—in this case, Christopher Steele—would assess it in compiling a dossier of individual HUMINT-based reports originating from Russia nationals.

So when you evaluate human intelligence, human reporting, field reporting, source reporting, you know, it's sort of like when you're a journalist and you're trying to figure out who's telling the truth, right. You don't really decide who's telling the truth. You decide whether the person is credible, right, whether they know what they're talking about, whether there's other reasons to believe what they're saying, whether anything they've said factually matches up with something in the public record.

PS/ See my main feed for interactions with NBC and BI on the news of a mole in the Trump campaign (or org).

I'll offer a parting gift (as it were): there was a snitch in the Trump org. I was told by a major-media UK editor it's the "American" in this graph by Paul Wood (BBC).

And some points from Rangappa:

Asha Rangappa‏Verified account
@AshaRangappa_
Just to underscore: The Five Eyes (Canada, U.K., Australia, and New Zealand, in addition to us) are our CLOSEST intelligence partners. BOTH Australia and a former intelligence officer in the U.K. provided intel to the U.S. that they believed were a nat'l security risk.
At this point, to discredit the FBI's investigation is to not only suggest that the FBI (and CIA and NSA, which agrees with the FBI's intel) is engaged in some kind of anti-Trump conspiracy, but also the countries we entrust the MOST with international intelligence cooperation.
I worked with MI-6 and CSIS (Canada's intelligence service), and I can tell you that the level of trust afforded to these partners and vice versa is fundamental.

He is the very model of a Very Stable Genius: Trump cont
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 10:45

Mark Follman
‏*@markfollman*
The NRA's Dana Loesch—whose hits include calling gun safety advocates "tragedy dry-humping whores" www.mediaite.com/online/dana-loesch-unloads-on-godless-left-you-sicken-me/ and bullying a paralyzed gunshot survivor www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/guns-bullying-spitting-jennifer-longdon-dana-loesch/ —was just personally thanked by @VP Mike Pence for her "great voice"

www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/interview-vice-president-dana-loesch/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 10:47

Matthew Chapman
@fawfulfan

How 2017 went for women, in one quote: “She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted.”

How 2018 is going for women, in one quote: “I just decided to do it.”

OrraBoralis · 10/01/2018 10:48

My first post on a Trump thread but I have been following them religiously since the beginning. I was getting bogged down Googling for Trump News and was getting unreasonably angry at the fucking orange cheeto on a daily basis.

Thanks to this thread I can get the News with humour attached and it saves me a meltdown.

P.S. I sometimes watch Barrack Obama roast Tiny Hands Trump at the Press Corp Dinner on You Tube just to give me a laugh and I have a wee lust for Barrack....

Roussette · 10/01/2018 11:20

orra welcome! Smile

Lweji · 10/01/2018 11:52

For those who did, make sure you didn't order the wrong Fire and Fury:

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/09/the-other-fire-and-fury-decade-old-book-becomes-unexpected-bestseller

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 11:55

Hello orra! It’s good not to feel isolated in these trying times

Eric Garland
@ericgarland
BREAKING: Senate Dems release Committee on Foreign Relations showing Trump's total inaction action Putin's attack on democracy

Dem senator’s report warns of Russian meddling across Europe

www.apnews.com/af4a789c340d45619357432069447512

lettuceWrap · 10/01/2018 12:19

Lweji, happy to report my copy of Fire and Fury definitely has a picture of Trump on the cover Grin Amazon uk are due to deliver it this afternoon- it’s been a fairly busy morning as I’ve been trying to get numerous things done so I can justify to myself sitting down and reading it immediately!

Roussette · 10/01/2018 12:26

lettuce you just have to report back on the bits we don't know!

lettuceWrap · 10/01/2018 12:47

I’m sure I’ll have to wade through chapters of dross to get to good bits not already printed by the newspapers, but looking forward to it nonetheless (particularly as Trump was so keen to stop publication) Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 10/01/2018 13:03

Glad you're getting your copy Lettuce. Ours is on back-order and we won't get it until early February!!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 13:30

Fenit Nirappil‏
@FenitN
.@RalphNortham says he'll be the first Virginia governor with a majority-female cabinet. His answer on why is a little longer than "Because it's 2018"

www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/ralph-northam-assembles-a-majority-female-cabinet-a-first-for-virginia-governors/2018/01/09/573c6262-f57d-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html?tid=ss_tw-bottom&utm_term=.2949cf94ffba

To which Northam retweeted with:

Ralph Northam
‏**@RalphNortham**
Well, it is 2018.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 13:32
Grin

CNN Politics‏Verified account
@CNNPolitics
Anthony Scaramucci says Steve Bannon was a "bad hire" cnn.it/2qJQyaF

Preet Bharara
‏*@PreetBharara*
Umm ...