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He is the very model of a Very Stable Genius: Trump cont

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PerkingFaintly · 08/01/2018 23:23

We rushed out of the last thread without even a pocket handkerchief: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a3124599-Trump-2018-Resistance-is-Never-Futile

So here's a new one, with its own

I am the very model of a Very Stable Genius.
I have a mighty button and no problems with my penius.
I have no time for television, golf or social media
Since my brain is way way better than the best encyclopedia.

I'm cutting tax, I'll build a wall, I'll take away their medicare
You can trust me 'cos I'm orange and I have the most amazing hair.
So with my total ignorance of matters heterogeneous
I am the very model of a Very Stable Genius!

Compared to other leaders, my behavior's quite unusual
My twisted tweets and pissed-on sheets have managed to amuse you all
I have to drink two-handed 'cause my fingers are the teeniest
I need a sippy-cup with the inscription "Stable Genius."

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 11:22

They did a very good series on Russia - from Russia with Blood (tis the only one I remember from the top of my head) and other articles. The silence of the UK government on this and also Russian interference in the referendum is stark.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 11:37

UN calls Donald Trump's s*hole immigrants comments 'racist'
'These are shocking and shameful comments from the President of the United States'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/un-donald-trump-shithole-immigrants-haiti-africa-racist-huamn-rights-united-nations-a8155186.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

Lweji · 12/01/2018 11:46

Good for the UN. At some point, they have to be straight talking. Apparently he likes it.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 12:38

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made - a big setback for DACA!

ohfortuna · 12/01/2018 13:05

I would suggest that people from Norway don't want to go to the USA because they think the USA is a bit of a shit hole...

Fekko · 12/01/2018 13:06

He’s now saying that he didn’t say it at all. Even though the Whitehouse hasn’t denied it. Deluded or dementia?

ElenaGreco123 · 12/01/2018 13:07

A bit of both.

juliesaway · 12/01/2018 13:27

Maybe he didn’t say it ?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/01/2018 13:30

Given previous evidence, the balance of probability suggests a tactic of denial.

PerkingFaintly · 12/01/2018 13:31

Rachel Maddow's piece included a list of people present at the meeting - Democrat and Republican members of Congress. (I'll dig them out in mo.)

The only person who's claimed he didn't say it is Trump himself.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 13:37

The Associated Press
‏*@AP*
BREAKING: Cybersecurity firm says Russia-linked hackers are laying groundwork to spy on US Senate staff.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 13:39

oybbk he's hit his 2000th lie this week apparently. We clearly underestimated him - he is capable of breaking records!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 13:47

It's inconsequential really but I found it amusing. Behold a much overlooked group of victims of Trump: translators

‘Countries that are dirty like toilets,’ and other ways Trump’s profanity was translated abroad

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/12/countries-that-are-dirty-like-toilets-and-other-ways-trumps-profanity-was-translated-abroad/?utm_term=.490b6fc0e9d1

PerkingFaintly · 12/01/2018 13:51

Mind you, now that the Supreme Prince has denied it, I'm expecting to see White House flunkies repeating the denial à la Spicer and the crowd sizes.

But watch from 12:19 in this piece: www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

People present at the meeting were a mix of Senators and members of Congress:
Lindsay Graham (Rep)
Richard J Durbin (Democrat)
Kevin McCarthy (Rep)
David Perdue (Rep)
Tom Cotton (Rep)
Robert W Goodlatte (Rep)

When Maddow was broadcasting last night, her show had tried to contact all of those people to ask them to confirm or deny, but didn't report getting any answers. The White House at that stage had also not denied that Trump had said it.

So, place your bets...

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 13:53

A handy rebuttal (which hopefully you won't need):

Jonathan M. Katz‏Verified account
@KatzOnEarth
Lot of folks, from the alt-right to @RichLowry, think they’re making a great argument in the president’s defense tonight by noting that Haiti and El Salvador are, in fact, poor.

But they’re just revealing their own racism. Here’s why:

In order to do a victory lap around the GDP difference between, say, Norway and Haiti, you have to know nothing about the history of the world.

That includes, especially, knowing nothing real about the history of the United States.

You have to first of all understand nothing about the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade.

You have to not understand anything about the systematic theft of African bodies and lives. And you have to not understand how that theft built the wealth we have today in Europe and the US.

You’d have to not know that the French colony that became Haiti provided the wealth that fueled the French Empire — and 2/3 of the sugar and 3/4 of the coffee that Europe consumed.

You’d have to not know how rich slave traders got off their system of kidnapping, rape, and murder

You’d have to not realize that Haiti was founded in a revolution against that system, and that European countries and the United States punished them for their temerity by refusing to recognize or trade with them for decades.

You’d have to not know that Haiti got recognition by agreeing to pay 150 million gold francs to French landowners in compensation for their own freedom.

You’d have to not know that Haiti paid it, and that it took them almost all of the 19th century to do so.

You’d then have to not know that Haiti was forced to borrow some money to pay back that ridiculous debt, some of it from banks in the United States.

And you’d have to not know that in 1914 those banks got President Wilson to send the US Marines to empty the Haitian gold reserve

.@RichLowry would have to not know about the chaos that ensued, and the 19-year US military occupation of Haiti that followed (at a time when the US was invading and occupying much of Central America and the Caribbean).

He and others have to not know about the rest of the 20th century either—the systematic theft and oppression, US support for dictators and coups, the US invasions of Haiti in 1994-95 and 2004 ...

... the use of the IMF and World Bank to impose new loans and destructive trade policies, including the now-famous rice tariff gutting that Bill Clinton apologized for but had been a policy since Reagan, and on and on ...

And you’d have to understand nothing about why the US (under George W. Bush) pushed for and paid a quarter of the UN “stabilization mission” that did little but keep Haiti’s presidents from being overthrown and kill 10,000 people by dumping cholera in its rivers. Etc.

In short, you’d have to know nothing about WHY Haiti is poor (or El Salvador in kind), and WHY the United States (and Norway) are wealthy.

But far worse than that, you’d have to not even be interested in asking the question.

And that’s where they really tell on themselves ...

Because what they are showing is that they ASSUME that Haiti is just naturally poor, that it’s an inherent state borne of the corruption of the people there, in all senses of the word.

And let’s just say out loud why that is: It’s because Haitians are black.

Racists have needed Haiti to be poor since it was founded. They pushed for its poverty. They have celebrated its poverty. They have tried to profit from its poverty.

They wanted it to be a shithole. And they still do.

If Haiti is a shithole, then they can say that black freedom and sovereignty are bad. They can hold it up as proof that white countries—and what’s whiter than Norway—are better, because white people are better.

They wanted that in 1804, and in 1915, and they want it now.

So if anyone tonight tries to trap you in a contest of “where would you rather live”—or “what about cholera” or “yeah but isn’t poverty bad?”—ask them what they know about how things got that way.

And then ask them why they’re ok with it.

juliesaway · 12/01/2018 13:59

I think Haiti had had billions in aid over the years not including the $15bn given to it after the 2010 earthquake. There’s been a lot of charity too.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/01/2018 14:10

Senior WH offifical reportedly calls it a 'gaffe'.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-appears-unfazed-president-trumps-hole-countries/story?id=52302852

lionheart · 12/01/2018 14:24

It has also become a textbook example of what goes wrong when aid is not properly considered and co-ordinated, or when the people who are the recipients are left out of the equation.

lionheart · 12/01/2018 14:29

Josh Dawsey‏Verified account
@jdawsey1

After Trump denied our story about him threatening to pull Neil Gorsuch's nomination, sources came back with more details. Today, Dick Durbin goes on the record after Trump denies. Denials sometimes spark people to tell reporters more (and we very much appreciate it!)

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/01/2018 14:35

Downing street are being incredibly frustrating and obtuse. Trump is still welcome? Why don't they at least keep their mouths shut rather than actively welcoming a terrorist.

cozietoesie · 12/01/2018 14:53

I wonder how many conversations he's had with Brenda? Wink

lionheart · 12/01/2018 15:02

This is a thing on the twitter. Smile

#ICancelledMyTripToLondon because I found that Paddington bear is an undocumented migrant from Peru

lionheart · 12/01/2018 15:07

CNN

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After Trump cited disapproval with London's new US embassy as the reason for canceling his visit to the city, Madame Tussauds placed a waxwork of the President outside the building cnn.it/2r1nhZi

He is the very model of a Very Stable Genius: Trump cont
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/01/2018 15:08

www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2013/jan/14/haiti-earthquake-where-did-money-go

Not to mention that they needed the money because of the afore mentioned circumstances and then the earthquake.