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Openly judgmental towards tattoos?

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StandardRussian66 · 03/01/2018 14:48

My OH is tattooed from the neck down. They are cultural tattoos and he is a big guy, over 6ft and does body building.
I knew him years ago when he didn’t have the tattoos and when he was slim. Strangers were nice to him, and treated him like any other person. But now, he finds that men tend to square up to him on nights out, shop staff and waiting staff are abnormally abrupt and people in general is just openly quite hostile towards him. It makes me sad, and makes him anxious about going out.

AIBU to think most people aren’t this ignorant that they can’t see past the ink and see that he’s just a normal guy who wants to be able to enjoy a glass of coke in his local pub without men puffing their chests out at him whenever he walks by?
I thought we were over this in this day and age.

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RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 15:54

This is not Art; it is an embarrassment...
i.pinimg.com/736x/19/8c/37/198c37e9e4c222b3e49348c0f73b784e--ink-stains-misspelled-tattoos.jpg

RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 15:56

This is Art:
www.raphaelpaintings.org/images/paintings/the-school-of-athens.jpg

PompholyxOfUnknownOrigin · 04/01/2018 15:57

I would really like to know at what point that spelling mistake was pointed out, and whether the tattoo owner cared, and whether the mistake was corrected (if that is possible). Maybe no-one actually minded. Their body, their skin, etc.

RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 16:00

Surely no one can say this is artistic:

i.pinimg.com/736x/7d/0f/94/7d0f94625ea0afce65c34928e11b7fdc--worst-tattoos-bad-tattoos.jpg

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RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 16:02

PompholyxOfUnknownOrigin

I would really like to know at what point that spelling mistake was pointed out, and whether the tattoo owner cared, and whether the mistake was corrected (if that is possible). Maybe no-one actually minded. Their body, their skin, etc.

Maybe but it is unlikely many others were impressed.

PompholyxOfUnknownOrigin · 04/01/2018 16:06

Oh I agree Rose, it’s grotesque. But that makes me nasty and judgemental apparently.

RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 16:07

This is Japanese apparently. So much for the Japanese being minimalist...
i1.wp.com/fmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/japanese-rose-tattoo.jpg?resize=640%2C480&ssl=1

JacquesHammer · 04/01/2018 16:08

So Rose. Just to summarise. You judge all tattoos as not art because some are poor and mis-spelled?

So you give the worst example of something you can find to try and make a point.

RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 16:09

I think those of us who appreciate plain skin should be permitted our voice too. Hmm

JacquesHammer · 04/01/2018 16:09

But that makes me nasty and judgemental apparently

No. what would make you nasty and judgmental would be if you said "all tattoos are hideous and crap" because of a mis-spelled example.

JacquesHammer · 04/01/2018 16:10

@Rose absolutely: but only with reference to your own skin.

Don't like a tattoo great. Don't get one. It's not a difficult issue.

dustarr73 · 04/01/2018 16:11

We are going round in circles here.

Floellabumbags · 04/01/2018 16:31

Surely no one can say this is artistic

Well it's ugly as fuck but also very, very funny.

NotACleverName · 04/01/2018 16:35

OK, Rose. We get it. You don't like tattoos. However you're not bringing up any new points and are just continuing to rehash the same old bollocks that's been stated many, many times before.

FYI I also studied art and I think tattoos can be considered art.

Roussette · 04/01/2018 16:36

You do though, going by your other posts, seem to have an aversion to tattoos that goes beyond concerns for your daughter's career

Aversion might be too strong a word Rhiannon. I don't recoil in horror when I see anyone covered in tattoos, I don't pass comment, I actually like or don't like the person depending on their personality not on their skin.
However, I don't particularly like tattoos, that is true. That's OK. I haven't been rude about them and wouldn't but I am allowed to personally not like them.

Floellabumbags · 04/01/2018 16:38

It is unreasonable to voice those judgments to a stranger, though, if to do so would cause offence

Couldn't agree more.

They look ugly and dirty

Quite offensive.

they are especially nasty on women.

Misogynistic and offensive.

Social niceties dictate that polite people won't tell you your tattoos look horrible

You maybe want to work on your manners then.

RoseWhiteTips · 04/01/2018 17:02

Okaaaay. This one is good:

i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/1d/1c/c91d1c5bfc31337f10b295364ddbb494--pen-tattoo-tattoo-you.jpg

Anniethinggose · 04/01/2018 17:36

Rose, I feel sorry for you. You seem to lump everyone with into one category where you believe everyone with a tattoo will like and appreciate every tattoo. It's not true and makes you look single minded and silly.
You hate tattoos but have taken the time to google and post photos of them :/
I don't believe you studied art as a subject either, to be spouting such nonsense.

PersianCatLady · 04/01/2018 17:42

Haven't read the whole thread but is your OH Japanese?

TheExecutionersBong · 04/01/2018 17:43

Art is subjective. Whether you apply that logic to tattoos, or Impressionism or Damien Hirst, it is true. What counts as art varies historically, cross culturally, and interpersonally, as anybody who has actually studied art will know. We aren't all going to agree, and that's fine.

ShellyBoobs · 04/01/2018 17:48

Do those of you who’ve had yourselves coloured in find it a problem where jobs are concerned?

I wouldn’t employ someone with visible tattoos myself (and never have done) and I know many other employers and senior managers think the same.

Obviously lots of people don’t mind them at all but it must be limiting to a certain extent?

Although, I suppose it depends on the type of work, too.

HoneyBeeMum1 · 04/01/2018 17:50

Why are people so offended because I am proud of my beautiful daughters?

I am proud of them for many reasons, but I thought this was a discussion about aesthetics.

For the sake of full disclosure and to avoid giving the impression that my children are beautiful, but empty shells, I can assure you of the following:

  1. My only son is a handsome and intelligent young man, currently studying at one of the best universities in England. He is also a fine pianist.
  2. My four oldest daughters are academically gifted and have impeccable manners.
  3. My oldest daughter plays the piano, violin and flute. She speaks German, Spanish, French and Scottish Gaelic. She was a promising ballet dancer, but gave it up when we moved to Scotland. She is hopeless at keeping her bedroom tidy though.
  4. The next two girls speak French, German and Scottish Gaelic and play the piano. They sing like cats being dragged up a motorway.
  5. My fourth daughter speaks English and Scottish Gaelic and plays the piano.
  6. My two youngest girls are twins. They are only a few months old, so are a bit too young for language and music lessons.
  7. Our whole family - apart from the twins -
are competent at (horse) riding.

None of them have tattoos. Neither do their parents.

I hope that sets minds at rest.

HBM

Anniethinggose · 04/01/2018 17:52

No, Shelly, I never have. Then again I don't have any on face or hands. I haven't met many people with such visible tattoos actually and they are artists and musicians anyway.
You wouldn't know if I had tattoos if you interviewed me (I wouldn't want to work for you btw), which may or may not be why I'm so successful in my profession.

Anniethinggose · 04/01/2018 17:55

Standard, Honey. Nothing unusual there.
I was concerned though that you take pleasure from the sexist attention your daughters get. You obviously wouldn't know otherwise, but it will soon get tedious and demeaning for your daughters.