Smoking weed is......

[LockJawTrouble]

Just trying to make sense of things. Is it me or smoking weed is not normal? I am fed up of this excuse to the point, where I think I need some reconfirmation , to make sure I am not the only one thinking that.

"Well yes, why not legalise all drugs?"
"Because drug growers/dealers/barons will mthen find something new and illegal to make their money from."

That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard of for outlawing something, and that's against some competition

And you wonder why people don't obey stupid some laws.

"I smoked weed when I was in my early 20s for the first time and had my first panic attack as a result. I’m now 20 years down the line and still have panic attacks (haven’t smoked week for those 20 years either)."

It sounds like you were prone to panic attacks and would have had them even if you never smoked.

Unless you are trying to say that having just a few drags on a joint damaged your brain in that instant and gave you panicked attacks for life?

It’s like any other drug. Some people can do a little a few t.imes a week or less frequently, and some people get addicted. Weed is like alcohol; most people that I know who smoke it are fine, even the ones who smoke it quite a lot but I also know a couple who are more addicted than your dh and whose lives have become train crashes. Those two are people I no longer see and nor does anyone else I know.

Your dh is addicted, but presumably functioning at work? Regardless of that, he is not functioning in the family, is he?

Posters who partake think that those who don't because it is illegal are unreasonable for not smoking it

No they do not. Nobody thinks anyone is unreasonable for not smoking it.

Lonicera, it is our civic duty to examine our laws and authorities, and if people hadn’t done that then women would not be voting, there’d be no NHS, we’d still have workhouses and so on.

It behooves us to be constantly questioning whether a law is a good law and an effective law, and that will constantly change as we understand better and better how things work.

Lonicera, you don’t seem to understand the difference between questioning a law and breaking a law.

I definitely don’t think its unreasonable not to smoke it! I just don’t want to be judged by strangers because I choose to smoke it myself

I do Jux

I'd much much rather have a joint than a drink. I also think it should be legal and widely available to buy.

jux
Lonicera, you don’t seem to understand the difference between questioning a law and breaking a law.
Lots of laws need to be pushed against as they are bad laws.
ALL of the drug laws are bad laws.
They are not evidence based.
They do not make life better for anybody.
The cost of enforcement is excessive
They should be replaced with evidence based legislation.

The war on drugs in the USA is pretty darned racist .....
Get a prison sentence for drug possession, lose the right to vote.
Primarily affects young black men.

I don't judge those who smoke it, I am just opposed to the normalisation of it so that I have to be surrounded by it at parties, in the street, people smelling of it in public transport, etc. It's no longer cool / acceptable to smoke tobacco indoors at parties, why should I have to passive smoke weed? It should only be available on prescription for those who need it to manage pain etc. Also I think it can be dangerous for teen brain development and I don't believe there is no link to MH issues.

CurryWorst Wed 03-Jan-18 14:25:51
"Rubbish argument anyway. Lots of banned drugs have nasty side effects. Thalidomide etc. Dont necessarily affect everyobe but hell for those it does effect

The same way as life saving drugs do? Almost all drugs can have nasty side effects. Bet you are still happy to take those you need though."

Which is why most drugs tend to be on prescription, isn't it? I wouldn't be any happier if my dd's ADS could be legally sold on the High Street, though I am perfectly willing to admit that they have probably saved her life.

It's no longer cool / acceptable to smoke tobacco indoors at parties, why should I have to passive smoke weed?
Do weed smokers not have the same manners as tobacco smokers?

Ta1kinPeace I agree with you. I was pointing out to Lonicera that her example of carrying a knife was very different to questioning a law.

I am questioning the drug laws in this country, but I don’t break them, I campaign against them, and do what I can to encourage change. Should the drug laws change, I still wouldn’t smoke weed or take drugs which are currently illegal for the simple reason that I don’t gain any benefits from doing so; I dislike the effects of weed coke speed and lsd, which are the only ones I’ve used in the past. That won’t change whether they’re legal or illegal.

I can still push for the laws to change, and I do that.

I'm not really into any kind of intoxication these days but should I feel the need in the future I would like to be able to legally use cannabis or maybe some other substances
the only currently legal option for getting high, alcohol is much more harmful to your health in my understanding, for example....
www.sciencealert.com/alcohol-damages-dna-stem-cells-cancer-acetaldehyde

Which is why most drugs tend to be on prescription, isn't it? I wouldn't be any happier if my dd's ADS could be legally sold on the High Street, though I am perfectly willing to admit that they have probably saved her life

Good argument for legalisation then, isn't it?

Not acceptable for me personally, I would absolutely not be okay with OH or my children doing it... that said, I know lots of people who do it and I don’t judge them or anything. It’s totally up to them... but for me personally, I wouldn’t allow it in my home.
I think it’s because I grew up and saw really amazing and intelligent people become slowly destroyed by drugs until they became next to nothing of their old selves, and all of them began (and continued) with weed... so I guess I just have bad experiences with it. I think life is just full of things we accept and don’t accept based on experiences

So, DH and I are going, for our first time, to a legal pot shop today to buy legal, recreational weed. Prior to this, DH obtained it from a friend. He smokes semi-regularly, I very rarely and mostly due to the (former) illegality. I'm really looking forward to being able to have a few tokes on a vape, just as I would look forward to a glass of good wine or a nice cocktail. It's no different. In our own family we run the gamut from 'teetotalers' (should we call them 'weedteetotalers'?), those who partake from time to time and enjoy the feeling (social tokes), one who simply falls asleep, one who feels paranoia, one who is a recovered weed addict. The last three do NOT partake, naturally. But you'd say the same things about many people who drink. Some like it. Some simply don't like it. Others find the negative effects of alcohol to be such that they cannot partake.

As far as the UK, well, it's illegal and to me that's the main reason to choose not to partake. But I do wonder if the UK suddenly became 'dry' (i.e. prohibition a la the US) how many people would really stop drinking simply 'because it's illegal'.

If it was illegal to drink I wouldn’t drink. It really is that simple.

If it was illegal to drink I wouldn’t drink. It really is that simple

Really? I would.
What if it was made illegal to, oh I don't know, do something you really enjoy doing that is harmless? Would you just stop?

It’s unlikely that sitting with a brew reading a book is going to be made illegal, but if I couldn’t legally get the coffee or the books then I wouldn’t be able to do it.

Neither of those things are particularly harmful to health though, unlike drugs and booze.

It's also unlikely that alcohol will be made illegal, so the question was a valid one. Which you didn't answer.

"If it was illegal to drink I wouldn’t drink. It really is that simple."

Not everybody is sheep.

Do you think there was no gay sex back when homosexuality was illegal?

If it was illegal to drink I wouldn’t drink. It really is that simple.

I can guarantee that not everyone shares that mind set.

If it was illegal to drink I wouldn’t drink. It really is that simple.
My grandparents were at college in the USA during Prohibition
they would know you are deluded.

Getting intoxicated is a pleasure shared by most mammals
sentient ones at least