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Makeup as gifts

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 16:17

DD is 4.
This year the majority of her Xmas gifts are makeup.

Since starting school DD loves makeup, (and shit American accents and hair flipping) and this is what she has asked for.

She will watch YouTube tutorials on makeup (which I support because it's either that or that god awful Ava Isla and whatever the third one is and I cannot handle their mothers voice without breaking something) and really just wants to play and be "made up" with glittery shit and pink lipstick.

I don't do makeup, I use the same Superdrug eyeliner I've been using for ten years and my one bottle of foundation lasts about two years, so I'm a complete failure as a mother clearly.

Today discussing what the kids are getting in Work one of the wives of a colleague made hell of a face and said "oh god" but when I asked what she meant she just shrugged it off and said "oh nothing, I just think that's not really the done thing" but wouldn't elucidate any further.

Is is THAT big of a deal?

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Smitff · 21/12/2017 20:00

i’m being portrayed as the worst human in the world

Busted, lady. Don’t flatter yourself.

PasstheStarmix · 21/12/2017 20:00

I think it's getting blown way out of context talking about lipgloss and glitter for fun not a full face of heavy make up like an American beauty pageant.

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 20:02

Are the Daily Fail using this as fodder for an "article" yet?

You guys talk about the DM a lot.
Which kind of makes sense given the hysterical shouty nature of so many of you.

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LemonysSnicket · 21/12/2017 20:02

She’s 4? She can only watch what you let her watch ? I had a plastic lipstick or two at that age but not loads of the stuff... very bad for her skin?

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 20:04

Christ you're obtuse.

You know no-one believes a word out of you, yeah?

Pot kettle, don't get butthurt because you haven't made me cry kiddo, you're just not scary. Or very good at being mean. Sorry. 🤗

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Cherrycokewinning · 21/12/2017 20:06

She’s not obtuse, she’s just a wind up merchant 😭

LemonysSnicket · 21/12/2017 20:12

And ‘she doesn’t have confidence issues’ ... four is the very very beginning of seeing that other people have opinions of us, we don’t start to feel ‘judged’ or ‘assessed’ by peers until 5/6 really.
This shit gave me a complex - I started watching at around 12 yo and before then thought I was pretty and fun. But watching these older women with money, beauty, curves you think you’ll never have, and not being able to do make up like them - makes you compare yourself a lot. Obviously this part was anecdotal but you get my point.

Also the subtle knife has some very advanced themes ... and how the fuck could you shoot a gun at 4?

ChasedByBees · 21/12/2017 20:12

Also she can define what a non Newtonian substance is and its properties.

So she understands viscosity and pressure and can explain that thoroughly already?

PinkAvocado · 21/12/2017 20:20

Nope too much work-read your own posts and see how you’ve gone from insinuating loads of make up for a YouTube obsessed 4 year old to a bit of glitter Hmm

Lovemusic33 · 21/12/2017 20:31

I’m confused OP, you posted in AIBU? People are saying YABU but you can’t take it? Why post something here if you can take being told the truth?

Why not just not bother posting and just do what you think is best (allowing your 4 year old to watch YouTube videos and wear make up)?

You obviously think it’s ok so why bother posting?

SilverySurfer · 21/12/2017 20:34

Of course it's absolutely fine for your four year old to mostly receive make up for Christmas presents and watch Youtube videos on make up - IF she is aiming to emulate the Kardashians and their vacuous lives when she gets older. Better start looking for the best plastic surgeons for when she hits 18 and must have the latest butt implants, inflated boobs, and trout pout lips Hmm

twinkledag · 21/12/2017 20:37

No way would I be happy with my 4 yr old wearing make up, receiving it as presents or watching tutorials on YouTube.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 21/12/2017 20:40

The gates to hell have opened ! You need to try and nudge them shut a bit . Surely she can focus on other stuff ? It’s not ideal and she might grow out of it Confused

That said mine watch endless Minecraft tutorials so .....

Softkitty2 · 21/12/2017 20:40

I'd be damned if my 4 y/o dd watches youtube videos on makeup let alone actually get them as presents from anyone.

Let your child be a child.

Children are very impressionable.

Yabu

thethoughtfox · 21/12/2017 20:44

Maybe she has seen you doing face painting and wants to be like mama. Face paints and make up could seem the same thing to a little one.

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 21/12/2017 20:46

I like your username, OP.

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 21/12/2017 20:58

So, what does everyone watch on YouTube, if you watch?

I like the popaholic videos, especially Dr Sandra Lee. And tarantulaguySomeNumbers who has lots of tarantulas: he's interesting. And all the ASMR stuff.

But then I usually find myself an hour later watching 'Top 5 people with two heads' or something and I wonder what I'm doing with my life.

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 20:58

The gates to hell have opened ! You need to try and nudge them shut a bit . Surely she can focus on other stuff ? It’s not ideal and she might grow out of it 

I have every faith that she will, at least I hope so, I've been texting one of the mums at school about this and her daughters did the same apparently, she bought them makeup and they got bored relatively quickly.

I know DD enough to know if I banned it, it would become the only thing in her life, the child asks for gum every time she gets in my car (her dad gives her gum, ew) and has done so for the last 18 months without skipping a day despite the answer being no, I can't face 10 years of that level of nagging.

That said mine watch endless Minecraft tutorials so .....

Wtf is it with them? DS does and they are so mind numbingly boring. At least with the makeup ones something happens at the end.

(Forgets the Neopets obsession that lasted through high school)

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 20:59

*So, what does everyone watch on YouTube, if you watch?

I like the popaholic videos, especially Dr Sandra Lee. And tarantulaguySomeNumbers who has lots of tarantulas: he's interesting. And all the ASMR stuff.

But then I usually find myself an hour later watching 'Top 5 people with two heads' or something and I wonder what I'm doing with my life.*

Fainting goats.

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MrsAJ27 · 21/12/2017 21:09

FFS this is about make up 4 a little girl...why so serious?

WillowWept · 21/12/2017 21:10

This is the wankiest thread I've read for a while.

OP if you don't have a blog already then you definitely should start one...

hungryhippo90 · 21/12/2017 21:14

I’m sorry, but I just can’t see how she got to make up videos on YouTube. When my daughter was that age it was all about spongebob squarepants and peppa pig.

It’s quite sad that she’s so into her appearance at the age of four, but what can be done? Just try and lead her away from the obsession as time goes by I guess?!

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BadFeminist · 21/12/2017 21:15

OP if you don't have a blog already then you definitely should start one...

I write one for work (because I'm the only person there who understands social media).
It's not nearly this exciting.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 21/12/2017 21:16

A shame you’re allowing your four year old to be indoctrinated into the patriarchal beauty values so very young.

When you’re four you really don’t need that shit.

ladypete · 21/12/2017 22:17

Its the tutorials that worries me most.

Listen to them:
Just going to pop some concealer here to cover this blemish
Just going to contour here to slim the bridge of my nose
Just going to highlight here to lift and bring out my cheekbones
Just going to create the illusion of fuller lips by doing xyz

So many subconscious messages about what we should look like. it saddens me that a 4 year old will be listening to all of this.

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