We are a vegan house, meat eater friends over this evening. WIBU to cook a vegan menu?

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Hi all, this is my first AIBU but I'm having a panic.
Non vegan mates over this eve, they always make every effort to accommodate us when we go there but this is their first visit to ours since we are vegan.
Shall I suck it up and cook a corpse or stick with a vegan menu? Would you be offended to eat vegan at a friends as a meat eater?
Thanks in advance if you reply. Could do with a few views...

What "all those meat eaters who expect vegans to cook meat"? Where?
In practice if it were me I’d do vegan but put out a bit or chorizo or something alongside the starter.
If I had gone to the trouble of making you a meal to conform with your eating preferences I would expect you to return the favour.
Most of the answers on this thread have been surprising. There's usually a significant minority who say that they don't like vegan food and would never eat it.
A vegan meal can be eaten by a meat eater, a meat meal cannot be eaten by a vegan Of course it CAN. They choose not to. There is a difference.

Curry -these are just form the top third of the thread (because I got bored C&Ping) . And one of these comments is yours.

Tak!king - the Chinese restuarant you went to is probably Anglicised. Or at least westernised. Frogs/dog/insects in the West is a no-goer. (maybe off-menu?)
When I was in Thailand I went to a market with net-bags of frogs in. You want frogs-legs? One frog gets hauled out, and the thing is chopped in half - the backlegs chopped off, bang. right there. Still alive (not for long).

Oh - and I used Oriental to mean someone from the orient. I mean the far east. Which encompasses a lot of countries.

A corpse can be an animal corpse too. It's most often used to refer to humans but by no means exclusively.

I'm a carnivore but if I was going to dinner at a vegan mates no way would I expect meat

Get over yourselves and your tit for tat angst.

OP will or should cook a nice vegan meal with vegan bits on the side for those who might not like it. Bread, dips, spuds whatever.

Jeez you are all getting a bit hot under the collar here.

Tip.... it doesn't matter. It is a good and interesting thread that was answered in the first few posts. OP did apologise for the "corpse" reference. So what the F are you all going a bit doo lally about.

Merry/Happy Christmas to all of you. Vegan, omnivore, carnivore whatever. Keep it civil.

Curry -these are just form the top third of the thread (because I got bored C&Ping) . And one of these comments is yours

Yes, and it does not in any way mean that meat eaters should expect vegans to cook for them. Not even slightly. Don't use me for your weird and vaguely racist agenda.

(Oriental is ok for rugs and ceramics, not people. And hasn't been for a long time)

ptumbi
I was recommended to go to the place by Chinese friends.
It is anglisised in as far as illegal practices - like cutting up a live frog at the table - are banned
but the lobster and crab were being killed to order
and ALL the customers other than us were Chinese (speaking Cantonese mostly)

When in Rome and all that

cathy
I used to cook vegan pizzas for parties but the meaties had scoffed them before the vegans dragged themselves out of the pub

Oh ffs.

Once again...loads of people piling in to have a pop about something the op has already apologised for, on literally page 2.

But let's not let that stop everyone from making the usual, boring posts all desperate to say how sanctimonious and preachy vegans are.

At least RTFT especially OPs replies before using that patronising/sneering tone...it makes you look like a dick.

OP FWIW....
I have lots of meat eater friends who jump at every dinner invitation, and love my food.
One best friend lived with us for a while and knowing that no one has eaten meat in our house for decades....didn't even think to bring meat in, just ate veggie at home and if she fancied a hit went out.

I didn't ask this of her BTW...but she felt uncomfortable cooking meat in a house where some people hadn't eaten meat for decades.

If I cooked meat for someone I'd almost certainly give them food poisoning..I haven't cooked it for 20 years!

No one could honestly expect a non meat eater to be able to cook/prep meat in a nice, healthy, tasty way if they can't taste it/test it surely??

Once again...loads of people piling in to have a pop about something the op has already apologised for, on literally page 2

no, they are talking to EACH OTHER about something that came up from the OP but is now nothing to do with her.
Why do some people think every response on a thread is to the OP? It's a discussion forum, hence the discussion.

Curry - you asked What "all those meat eaters who expect vegans to cook meat"? Where?
I c&Ped 4 examples. All of which suggested that meat-eaters expect a vegan to cook meat for them.

You then say yes, and it does not in any way mean that meat eaters should expect vegans to cook for them when all 4 examples do. One of which is yours.
How many times are your going to say the same thing?

I'm an enthusiastic carnivore but if going to dinner at some vegans' place, I'd fully expect an entirely vegan menu. It would be rude to expect anything else or to moan, in the way it would be rude to moan if you weren't served a bacon butty in a Muslim or Jewish household. Where have people's manners gone?

On the plus side, vegans can often cook delicious vegan food, because they're highly motivated to do so, in a way I'm not...

I’m a meat eater and if I went to a vegans house then I’d expect vegan food ..

@Ta1kinPeace

I have seen so many gatherings where the veggie/vegan (VV) stuff is scoffed by the non participants before the actual VVs can get their hands on it!

I don't know what the solution is, but VV food must be gorgeous for that to happen!

It obviously cannot work the other way so it is disappointing when some non VV people scoff something that only VVs will eat. I hate that.

Why do some people think every response on a thread is to the OP? It's a discussion forum, hence the discussion

Well I'm all for debate and discussion...but there are loads of posts castigating op directly for her terminology pages and pages after she already apologised, and did so without being anything except nice and cheerful.

Loads of sneery comments about vegans, just flick back through this thread.

Cook a vegan meal, I would expect that, but don’t do what someone did to us. Fantastic meal, but she lectured us about our morals and the state of our colons..with special reference to her husband's diarrhoea throughout the meal.

I c&Ped 4 examples. All of which suggested that meat-eaters expect a vegan to cook meat for them

No they didn't. You quoted mine which was nothing at all to do with meat eaters being cooked meat by vegans. Not even remotely. Try reading it again, and then you can apologise for getting my post totally wrong and using it wrongly.

I'd also apologise for "oriental" and the rest if I were you, but whatever.

I thought the corpse comment was funny, and I think you should use it. A shared sense of humour is an excellent basis for friendship.

I would never expect a vegan to cook meat for me. However, we do have friends who feel hard done by if they eat at ours and the meal doesn't include meat. So maybe warn them beforehand?

I'd be quite happy to cook a veggie/vegan meal for someone.
I'd never imagine that when I went to someone's house who is vegan they would give me meat....however, I wouldn't eat some of the chemically vegan substitutes that mascarade as food.

I'd rather just have a veggie curry.

If I went to a vegan friend's house for dinner, and they cooked meat I'd feel uncomfortable that they cooked meat to please me against their own ethical beliefs.

Why are people offended at OP calling a corpse a corpse? That's what a dead body is (or it might just be a bit of dead body, so part of a corpse).

Why is that high and mighty?

Cos its a carcass, not a corpse.
And its not the term for meat, so you are making a specific point by saying it.

I would expect to be fed vegan food if I went to a vegan household for dinner. I would be looking forward to it as would assume that they know how to cook tasty vegan food and so it would be a nice change

And on the (frankly pedantic) argument of corpse vs carcass...

The Oxford English Dictionary defines a corpse as....
A dead body, especially of a human being rather than an animal

Note the especially......so it can be applied to an animal. It is definitively ambiguous.

Whereas "Carcass" is clearly definitive....
The dead body of an animal

So "corpse" = subjective/ circumstantial
"Carcass" = definitive

So op was technically correct in using "corpse" no matter how emotive you find it.

And again on the carcass/corpse subject.....

It's still a dead thing.
How much emotion you attach to either a human or animal body depends hugely on your moral/ethical/religious stand point.

Or if one wishes to get it right,one would correctly assign

Pedantic carnivores - not a great combination