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We are a vegan house, meat eater friends over this evening. WIBU to cook a vegan menu?

379 replies

AddictedtoAIBU · 15/12/2017 13:49

Hi all, this is my first AIBU but I'm having a panic.
Non vegan mates over this eve, they always make every effort to accommodate us when we go there but this is their first visit to ours since we are vegan.
Shall I suck it up and cook a corpse or stick with a vegan menu? Would you be offended to eat vegan at a friends as a meat eater?
Thanks in advance if you reply. Could do with a few views...

OP posts:
TheLuminaries · 15/12/2017 18:37

Wow the carcass eaters have got mighty pissed at being called corpse eaters Grin

Op, you sound lovely, of course you don't need to cook a carcass or a corpse, and I am sure you will produce a lovely vegan feast.

BearsDontDigOnDancing · 15/12/2017 18:37

Given that the OP's friends have accommodated the OP when they have visited, I am pretty sure they have cooked and eaten vegan themselves, so hardly sure why they need to be shows the "wonders" of vegan food. As if the first mouthful will pass their lips and they will suddenly wonder where they have been going wrong all their lives.

It is all a bit OTT.

Meat eaters can and do eat vegetarian/vegan and may even cook themselves such meals.

The other side is just as silly and ridiculous "well, you would expect a vegan meal when you got to THEIR house so they should get a meat meal at YOUR house"

Meat eaters who state they should be accommodated at a vegetarian/vegan house (as it would be expected the other way around) are as annoying as the newly vegan ex friend of mine who when I had cooked a vegan option for her (last minute as that is when I was informed) stood in my kitchen haranguing me over the cleanliness of my pans/chopping boards and when they had last had meat in/on them etc. This has nothing to do with them being vegan or meat eaters and everything to do with them just being plain rude.

feral · 15/12/2017 18:43

This thread has made my day.

I'm vegan. I'd never touch meat let alone cook it. Any meat eating friend would understand that and not expect to be given meat or they wouldn't be a very good friend.

Vegan food is usually a catch all anyway. Vegetarians, kosher, Muslims and all can eat it without offending anyone. You can't lose.

maddiemookins16mum · 15/12/2017 18:45

I love a nice carcass or roasted animal corpse, have some amazing, thick, juicy pork chops for tonight with sage butter. Yum.

Anatidae · 15/12/2017 18:49

The definition of corpse is a dead body and that's what meat is.

Of course it is. It’s bits of dead animal carcass. I’m fine with eating animals. I know where meat comes from,

People aren’t getting annoyed that it’s being pointed out. They also know where meat comes from. They’re eye rolling at the sniffy superior sentiment behind it. ‘Cooking a corpse’ is a phrase that ‘others ‘ a group of people. It sets the user apart and above. It also doesn’t help the general stereotype people have of vegans.

curryforbreakfast · 15/12/2017 18:49

If I go to supper at a Jewish house I expect kosher

Most Jews don't keep kosher, so I wouldn't expect that if I were you. Certainly not in the UK.

curryforbreakfast · 15/12/2017 18:50

The definition of corpse is a dead body and that's what meat is

Dead human body. The animal equivalent is carcass. It's not difficult.

Ta1kinPeace · 15/12/2017 18:53

Most Jews don't keep kosher, so I wouldn't expect that if I were you. Certainly not in the UK.
Shame - its nice to try new foods
and TBH the Jewish houses I'm most likely to visit are of the New York variety Smile

I'm having a Vegan Sunday lunch - the sheep was vegan when it was alive Wink

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/12/2017 18:55

Carcass, animal
Corpse, human
It’s not hard, but they are different

BonnieF · 15/12/2017 18:57

If I were going to a vegan household for dinner, I would expect to be offered vegan food, and would be more than happy to respect their lifestyle choices by eating it.

If, however, said vegans referred to meat as 'cooking a corpse' I would regard them as the sort of self-righteous, sanctimonious tosser who do so much to give vegans a bad name and I wouldn't want to socialise with them.

IsaSchmisa · 15/12/2017 19:07

I don't care what vegans or veggies call meat, but if I'm eating vegan there'd better be some chillies on it. I bloody love veg curry.

JemimaLovesHamble · 15/12/2017 19:09

Why are people upset by "cook a corpse"? Would "cook a dead animal" have been any better? I just had pork for dinner, but I wasn't under the illusion that it had never lived or that it grew on a pork tree. Anyone who gets uncomfortable/angry at the reminder that they eat dead flesh is probably due a lifestyle rethink...

curryforbreakfast · 15/12/2017 19:11

Why are people upset by "cook a corpse"? Would "cook a dead animal" have been any better

I think you are confused about why people are mentioning it. It's about pedantry and language, not sensibilities over what we are eating. Nobody is under any illusion about what their dinner used to be, thank you. We just like accuracy, and then add in the fact that it sounds like vegan lecturing, and that is why people are talking about it.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 15/12/2017 19:13

As I said I’m vegetarian and folk who bellow about cooking corpse tend to be wankers
The zealous type who make folk think all vegetarian and vegans are tossers

wtffgs · 15/12/2017 19:15

Oh FFS! A corpse

Carnivores (I am one) don't shrivel and die from eating vegan food. We often eat vege and sometimes vegan because, y'know, we don't have to have blood dripping from our fangs at every meal.

Are you deliberately being a GF/reverse..... whatever?

SparkleFizz · 15/12/2017 19:16

I eat meat.
And if I was going to a vegan friends house for dinner, I’d expect to be fed a vegan meal.

PurpleDaisies · 15/12/2017 19:18

Are you deliberately being a GF/reverse..... whatever?

If you’d bothered to read the thread/at least the op’s posts you’d have seen her apologise multiple times for her wording.

It’s a shame people keep putting the boot in.

PrincessoftheSea · 15/12/2017 19:20

Yes I love vegan food!

ptumbi · 15/12/2017 19:20

All these corpse meat eaters saying that you cook vegan for a vegan friend and take offence when they don't cook meat for you ...what would you do if an 'oriental' (chinese/vietmanese/korean/laosan/thai/whatever) person came to dinner?
If you expect a vegan to cook meat for you, would you be ok cooking dog/horse/snake/frog/insects for your 'oriental' guests?

curryforbreakfast · 15/12/2017 19:22

What "all those meat eaters who expect vegans to cook meat"? Where?

curryforbreakfast · 15/12/2017 19:22

And "oriental"? The 50's called, they want their word back.

Ta1kinPeace · 15/12/2017 19:24

If you expect a vegan to cook meat for you, would you be ok cooking dog/horse/snake/frog/insects for your 'oriental' guests?
No because at the Chinese restaurant I went to this week
we were the only non Chinese in there NOT London
and there was pork and beef and prawns and tofu on the menu
as well a deep fried chicken feet

purplecloudsgreyrain · 15/12/2017 19:34

Dearie me, what a lot of harrumphing about OP using the word corpse.

I think it was page 2 she apologised on and we are now on what, page 10 and people are still banging on about it.
I think OP was pretty clear that it was a post she quickly banged out. That is how she conceptualises of meat, hardly surprisingly as she is a vegan. She quickly wrote her post without translating her own conceptualisation into that of her audience.
I think its time to move on......

DistanceCall · 15/12/2017 19:34

A corpse is a dead human being.

A dead animal is called a carcass.

Eating meat is not a religion - we are allowed to eat non-meaty stuff too.

DistanceCall · 15/12/2017 19:35

Oh, and I'm perfectly happy to eat animals I have watched being reared and killed, yes (my family have a farm).