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AIBU?

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Aibu for calling her a racist?

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spiritofadventure · 14/12/2017 09:22

Went out for a few pre christmas drinks with a group of close friends on Saturday night. Nobody was drunk and we had been out for maybe 1 hour when somehow, the conversation turned into a discussion about Trump.

One of my friends came out with 'Trump is going to change the world for the better' and then proceeded to have a good old rant about how 'blacks and mexicans' are responsible for 'all' the crime in America. I asked her what she was basing this on , to which she replied 'people should just stick to their own people and stay in their own countries'.

This comment left me open mouthed and furious! I am mixed race and 2 other friends in the group are from another European country.

I told her that I had no idea she had such controversial opinions and that i didn't want to carry on a conversation with a racist. And then I left.

We haven't spoken since, but I have spoken to other members of the group and have been told that she is 'deeply hurt' that I called her a racist and she wants an apology.

I stand by what I said and i don't want to apologise.

Aibu??

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2017 13:44

please don't let @hjgguygi8y86 derail the post. S/he is being a GF and deliberately trying to press people's buttons

Or just offering a different point of view perhaps?

FWIW I'm another who thinks that what was said, in the way and context it was said, was almost certainly racist. But I hope I'm not so closed minded that I can't consider a well argued, alternative opinion, instead of just hurling insults

lljkk · 14/12/2017 13:56

I kind of like hjgguy's post. it was fair for her to lay out a counter-perspective. I don't agree with any of it! But it's good to see the counter-arguments detailed.
For me, what hjgguy said is clearly refutable. Not convincing or substantiated. So yanbu to OP.

It's possible OP's mate was having a bit of laugh & trying to wind OP up. I really wish so.

Gilead · 14/12/2017 14:02

But I hope I'm not so closed minded that I can't consider a well argued, alternative opinion,
If that had been produced maybe a discussion could have occurred, but we didn't get that, did we.

KindergartenKop · 14/12/2017 14:22

She sounds like an idiot. You are better off without her.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2017 14:28

Gilead naturally we're all different, but considering the title thread I thought an "alternative opinion" is exactly what we got. As a slight aside, I especially like the way hjgg clearly addressed each point in turn instead of posting something more generalised

That doesn't mean I agree with all of it of course, but I did think there were some interesting points in there ... and after all, isn't that what a discussion's supposed to be about, rather than simply sniping at each other?

MilesHuntsWig · 14/12/2017 14:46

Good for you. No need to apologise. I’d do what others have suggested and reply to your friend that she is welcome to apologise to you whenever.

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