To be disappointed/peed off with CBeebies?

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Today I bought my son the monthly CBeebies magazine and this was smack bang in the middle of it. It was supposed to be about doctors but this is just promoting cancer, heart disease, diabetes, ect. I'm no vegan but I know when I'm sitting there eating a cheese and egg sandwich that it's not good for me, yet this is stating it's vital to have 2 unhealthy groups of food each day to be healthy. This gos against the NHS, the WHO, and just science in general. I would have expected this 10 years ago but it's 2017 and we know better.

All three of the organisations you mentioned, plus the two links from Josh warn of risks in processed red meat, but either recommend meat and dairy, dont mention it all, or say it's impossible to run valid comparisons due to the differences in overall lifestyle that usually accompany cutting out meat/dairy.

Am currently finding the fact you've taken the time to scribble out the offending food groups highly amusing, though!

In the past few years they have proved meat, eggs, and dairy cause heat disease, diabetes, and cancers

Don’t talk tosh.

Pretty sure the last time I did the BSc wound management module for HCP, protein such as those found in meat and dairy products were advised for improved wound healing (NHS funded course)

So I should just feed my toddler salad for dinner... okaaay that's really going to work.

Don’t worry op, I’m sure with your superior knowledge and guidance your child won’t be too influenced by ceebeebies and their evil ways

People saying kids need fat and protein, well duh. But thats got nothing to do with not eating meat, eggs, or dairy.

"Pretty sure that's the NHS Eatwell Plate?"

Very similar, but in fairness, just about every nutrition guide around looks the same. I wonder whether the NHS know they are gosing against themselves (eww).

www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/the-eatwell-guide.aspx

Have you been reading the Daily Faily as well as CBeebies magazines op? Perhaps you should read more... intelligent sources before posting. Oh, and if still like to know what you eat every day, if you’re apparently not vegan.

Clearly no one on this thread has enjoyed the wonder that is a cheese and egg McMuffin. Sometimes I just need that plastic American cheese.

Really OP? What is the issue?

My toddler had this magazine a while back and we have that double page spread on the wall of his playroom so he can learb different food groups

I can't take this seriously!

Plus I find you being offensive to 2 pages witg Dr Ranj's face on.... How dare you

Do not pass go, do not collect your "get well soon" badge

What do you feed your kids as a balanced diet OP?

Ok I guess people don't understand nutrition. Fair enough. Would you like me to find you some peer reviewed studies?

But thats got nothing to do with not eating meat, eggs, or dairy.

Confusing is the double negative. Should we not eat meat and dairy or not not eat them?

No.

I don't actually know what you are saying on your most recent post? You agree kids need fat and protein but you don't think they should eat meat, eggs or dairy? What should they be eating then? What do you give your DC to eat?

Are you absolutely sure you're not a vegan?

Mmmm. Egg, bacon and cheese McMuffin

Meat, eggs and dairy are good dietary sources of protein and fat, which as you have said, are essential for children's healthy growth and energy (plus each has other nutrients in, sich as calcium and B-vitamins, in reasonably concentrated amounts, which again make them good food choices for children)?

reminds me of the '80 s when I was treating severely malnourished children for the wealthy parts of London where children were fed wholegrain, vegetable based diets that were designed for obese heart patients.

Meat, fish, eggs and dairy are not necessary to grow healthy children but they are not poison and any diet needs balance and thought to get the right nutruents.

Kale and chinese cabbage contain 94mg calcium and 74mg per serving (1 cup) respectively
Yoghurt 415mg per 8 oz, sardines 325mg per 3 oz and Milk 299mg per 8 oz.
Your premise that veg is a better source of calcium is wrong.

younger children need approx 1300mg calcium per day. that would be a very large volume of green veg per day!

meat, eggs, and dairy cause heat disease, diabetes, and cancers

No, they don't.

And eggs are positively good for you.

So you're on board with people needing fat and protein but definitely not from meat, eggs or dairy. You'd have to get all fats and protein from vegetable oils, nuts and pulses. This is a vegan position. Why are you not vegan?

Tell us then Op, what do you feed your children daily that don't involve any of those 'unhealthy foods?'

Nothing will convince me that a (truly) free-range egg is anything other than a delicious powerhouse of goodness.

I also think (vaguely, and without any real basis) that different people do best on different diets. Maybe to do with ancestral eating habits or something. I believe that for some, a vegan diet is ideal; but on some instinctive level, I do not think it would be good for me. I'm drawn to meat (high-quality and with as little processing as possible) and feel and look best when I include it in my diet.

I did say "vague"

Oh...

Are you one of those vegans OP?

I think you’ve had too much Ninky Nonk and Clangers. Time to step away dear.

Ok I guess people don't understand nutrition.

And by ‘people’ you mean you, right? As you’ve been told you’re wrong from people who know better, unless you’re a scientist directly involved in these ‘studies’. Since your reading level is CBeebies magazine, I very much doubt it.

What the fuck are you talking about OP you are making no sense