To be surprised that M&S has a section on their website for Modest Clothing?

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What's that all about then? Why does it warrant its own category?

I meant I would find it useful when they do the summer range!

I don't propose wearing an abaya in a country where abayas are not widely worn - an extra unnecessary layer (though I do have one for mosque visiting)! It's just difficult to find lightweight clothing that is long sleeved, high necked etc. Not close fitting.

Good for M&S. I can't find long sleeved tops in winter half the time. Not bothered about modesty but I'd like to be warm!

🙄🙄🙄 ‘ what’s that all about then ‘

Modest fashion has always been around but lately it’s more in trend than ever before.

You do not have to be of any faith in order to dress modestly... 😦

It’s hardly a massive section or a massive deal... there are 27 items that can be brought as separate prices or they have put outfit ideas together ....

Anyone remember those belts with Jesus on them... usually in studs or something ... what was THAT all about then ... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ah well Anna, looks like you've won the internet and the argument

Blushes with modest pride....

'How dare all these other cultures with their alien dress styles infiltrate our M&S and forbid us our sovereign British rights to wear crop tops and mini skirts and/or skintight leggings in midwinter?'

I don't think so. People are generally objecting to the term modest, not the clothes themselves.

I have a big of mix feelings towards the term modest and want it implies. But think M&S are great for doing it.

I am religious and a religion that encourages "modesty", it's not Jewish or Muslim. But it's actually really difficult to get clothing that meets the criteria that my religion encourages despite not being as restrictive as perhaps some Muslims, so having a range of clothing to shift though is really helpful, otherwise it can be difficult finding the right thing. It does tend to mean you go to "old women"shops as those ranges often hit the criteria more than other shops.

Modesty means different things to different people though, and different religions. The word modest also means very different things and the teaching of it can really throw up some weird and horrible things. I don't dress modesty because of men or anyone else, frankly it's disturbing and installing to both sexes to imply that modesty is about sex, or rape, or any of those things. I think I prefer the word conservatively, I dress conservatively to not draw attention to myself or my body because I believe who I am and what I am is more important that what see. I am not sure if I can explain that right, but that's how I feel and why I dress the way I do.

Good on marks though.

I don't wear revealing clothes and probably would quite like clothes like that put in one section for me, but the term 'modest' is vile because it does imply that every thing else is 'immodest' and it is referring to a woman's as usual, only a woman's behaviour, not just her style.

M&S may not have come up with the term but they are guilty of perpetuating it

I don't have a problem with the word modest. I definitely don't think it implies that there's only two categories of clothes - modest and immodest.

I work with quite a religious woman and she wears long (non-flowy) skirts, baggy cardigans, high necks, etc. What you might see an off-duty nun wearing, basically. She specifically goes out of her way to dress modestly, and the term describes her way of dressing perfectly. There's no value attached to it - it's just a descriptor.

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Sorry, meant to agree with MissWilmottsGhost.😳

@Ginger Too late. You agreed with me

I know my great gran love shopping in the modest section of M & S.

M & S Classic has always been known as the granny section which I would imagine comes under modest and unfashionable.

Are people so dumb they need to be told what's modest now?

Tie, sorry but there absolutely IS a value attached to the word modest. It may describe the way your colleague dresses, and you may mean it to apply only to the appearance of her clothes; but in the wider context it DOES imply that people who do not dress that way dress immodestly. You just can't get away from that, and to deny or ignore it is disingenuous at best.

No, oldlaundbooth - it just makes it easier to search online!

I've just had a google.
It's all long sleeves and high necks.
I can't imagine a life where I never feeling the breeze on my arms or the wind through my hair, on a hot summer's day.
It must be horrendous to always be covered in swathes of clothing, no matter the weather.

There's no value attached to it - it's just a descriptor.

Of course there is value attached to it in her eyes - or rather, virtue.

If there wasn't then why would she do it? It's what sets her apart from the rest of us. Her sense of virtue.

Well people can be dishevelled but they are never hevelled.

I don't think the word 'immodest' is used very often at all. In a work situation the term 'inappropriate' might be used.

Mumsnetters do sometimes struggle with the issue of appropriate clothing as their daughters grow up. They're torn between the feeling that liberation means wearing what you like and the sense that 11 year olds wearing short skirts and heavy make up isn't necessarily the best look. (With sons the concerns seem to relate more to tooth brushing, personal hygiene and smelly trainers - but again it's a question of how much personal choices should be weighed up against what society wants/expects.)

Oi TieGrr gerroff

As in, 'How dare all these other cultures with their alien dress styles infiltrate our M&S and forbid us our sovereign British rights to wear crop tops and mini skirts and/or skintight leggings in midwinter?'

AnnaMagdalene you do realise that the whole "modest" thing annoys even people who - gasp! - are not British?

I usually wear clothes that cover me up. I don't think anyone apart from my doctor or my ex-husband has seen my knees since about 1985. I still really, really object to a marketing strategy that defines what clothes are "modest" or "immodest" and gets women - including some religious women - bullied.

I hereby petition M&S for a Slutty Section, do you hear that M&S? A Slutty Section is needed....

They'll have to get realistic with their sizes though if they get all bodycon, a 14 will no longer be able to masquerade as a 10...

Totally off he topic but when I clicked on the link this hideous thing just jumped out an assaulted my eyeballs!

I think living in a city where a large proportion of women do dress conservatively/cover up for cultural reasons. It just seems to me to be a fact of life.

I think if department stores make it easy for these women - and others - to access certain product lines that is a positive thing. (It doesn't make me feel in any way judged for my own personal choices.)

I just took a look. It’s their normal range with a suggestion of how to put it together to achieve s more covered look.

Or if I was being cynical how to persuade women who cover to buy more clothes, I wouldn’t bother buying half the suggestions as I’d achieve the covered look with far less than their suggestions.

It’s not a specific ‘modest’ clothing line, it’s a her buy five items instead of one advertising gimmick.

I like M&S pants and socks for DP and that’s it.