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Dad taking dd to ladies toilet

550 replies

AdaHopper · 18/11/2017 21:05

MN - help dh and I with a disagreement please.

When dd(4) needs the loo in a public place, he takes her to the ladies' loos. I told him that women don't like that and he should take her to the men's loo. Aibu or is he?

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BatShite · 19/11/2017 15:43

Should use accesible loos. Men should not be in the ladies. And a 4 year old girl should not really be in the mens either. So accessible is the right choice.

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 19/11/2017 15:44

Do you really need to ask that?

Apologies TheFairyCaravan and Toffee I hadn't rtft Flowers Flowers

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 15:54

Taking the attitude that you’re entitled to use the disabled loos when you’re able bodied, because you have a child, is what gives parents a bad name Angry

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 15:57

My dad used to nip into the men’s, announce he was bringing his daughter in so the men in there didn’t get startled or anything, then walk me in with his hand over my eyes into the clearest cubicle

This reminds me of three men and a little lady where they blindfold the little girl before taking her in the gents.

If Tom Selleck can do it then Nigel can do it Grin

Happy900 · 19/11/2017 16:00

On a scale of what really matters I don’t think this does at all . I say Take her in a ladies toilet, it really doesn’t matter at all .some people need to have a word with themselves he is a daddy taking his daughter to the toilet I mean seriously. Report him for what ? There are people out there not doing what is right as a parent .This chap is clearly doing the right thing .

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 16:05

I've certainly had to leave the cubicle door open when my children were in a pushchair and there's no other option.

Yes me too so I don’t know why people are scoffing at the idea. I go to the cubicle furthest away and jam the pram in the open door so it’s obvious someone is in there, and pee like I’ve never peed before!

Yuk to DD seeing men standing pissing

Is it yuck for young boys to see men pissing?

I’m now curious about what goes on in men’s toilets that children can’t be privy too. Have I led a completely sheltered life and ‘men’s toilets’ is a euphemism for ‘sex dungeon’?

For those of you saying you may let DD/DS use the loo whilst changing baby in a double-up disabled/changing facility

I try to avoid using the disabled loos for baby changing where possible but sometimes needs must. my 4yo can use the toilet and wipe herself and often does while I’m changing the baby. There’s enough time for her to use the loo, even when I’m quick with DS, I’m not going to tell her to hold it in when we’re gonna be there anyway, on the principle that she is not disabled. It literally takes no more time if she has a wee. If she needs a poo then I tell her to wait and we’ll go in the ladies. Mainly because she’s not quick, but partly because I don’t like leaving a smell in the disabled loo.

Gileswithachainsaw · 19/11/2017 16:10

What by teaching their kids that men can override rules and regulations and women's rights/feelings when they feel like it and that what he wants is more important Confused

If men's loos are so unsafe and disgusting why would women want them in theirs to make them equally unsafe and smelly and disgusting.

Does being a parent mean that a previously filthy man would wipe the toilet seat if his dd pissed all over it, remember to flush or clear up the shit his kid got all over the seat?

Are all dads suddenly saints who won't cause a problem?

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 16:11

And what are men whom have been assaulted and raped by men whom might also be co sundered vulnerable in there presence when sitting with underwear round their ankles supposed to do?

Because is the men’s toilets and men have every right to be there. You don’t expect a man in the women’s toilets.

Also do people think fathers can’t be sex offenders or male women uncomfortable. “He’s just a daddy”...and?!

WildBluebelles · 19/11/2017 16:15

Have I led a completely sheltered life and ‘men’s toilets’ is a euphemism for ‘sex dungeon’?

Yeah, some of them are. Heard of cottaging and gloryholes? Only on Hampstead Heath/Clapham Common though so you are probably safe at the motorway service station.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 16:18

I’m guessing it doesn’t apply at the local soft play though Wild ConfusedGrin

gurugremlin · 19/11/2017 16:26

All these women saying men's toilets are filthy. A friend of mine knew the guy that cleaned the toilets in the national park in Yorkshire, he said the women's toilets were by far the dirtiest.

Personally if I saw a guy bringing his small daughter into a ladies toilet it would not bother me. In many french restaurants there is only one toilet cubicle and it's usually next to a urinal!

squaresandsquares · 19/11/2017 16:28

Omg he needs to take her to the men's loos

WildBluebelles · 19/11/2017 16:29

I’m guessing it doesn’t apply at the local soft play though Wild

Jesus, can you imagine? Grin No, I think for the most part men's toilets are about as interesting as women's toilets and basically nothing goes on there about from people going to the toilet.

Darlingsof · 19/11/2017 16:35

Mens toilets or the accessible toilet or a unisex toilet but no a bloke should not be going into the Ladies.

Sayyouwill · 19/11/2017 16:44

So it’s not okay for a man to enter the ladies toilets but it’s fine for him to use the disabled toilets even if he is able bodied?
What because it doesn’t affect you if they are clogging up the disabled toilets? If it’s not your problem then it isn’t a problem? Yeah, don’t mind me, I’ll just wait there with shit running down my leg while a fully able bodied man escorts his able bodied daughter into the only toilet I can use because heaven forbid she smells the urine in the men’s toilets.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking children into the men’s toilets. I assume even if there was something untoward going on in there the father, you know, the child’s parent, would protect the child.
Why are we all fine with women bringing their sons into the ladies but not men taking their daughters into the men’s?

Valerrie · 19/11/2017 17:00

This thread is batshit.

It's no wonder disabled people get upset and annoyed.

MrsOverTheRoad · 19/11/2017 17:02

What by teaching their kids that men can override rules and regulations and women's rights/feelings when they feel like it and that what he wants is more important confused

What if the child (female) doesn't WANT to go into the male toilets?

Does the Father make her? Because he might offend women in the female loos?

I don't think so.

As a child I would never have gone into the men's toilets. My DD"s wouldn't either.

My DH can and will take them into the female toilets. If you don't like it then wait till they've gone.

Or if you CAN'T wait then you should use the disabled anyway.

Gileswithachainsaw · 19/11/2017 17:06

Then the father has to figure something else out. His problem to solve not the women's.

MrsOverTheRoad · 19/11/2017 17:08

Giles no he doesn't. My DH will continue to take our DD's into the female toilets thanks.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 17:11

My DH can and will take them into the female toilets. If you don't like it then wait till they've gone.

No. I’d report him. He doesn’t belong there.

Sometimes kids have to do things they don’t wanna do. Nothing wrong with taking a girl into the men’s toilets.

Keep your horrible men out the ladies.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 17:12

And I agree about the revolting comments about the blasé use of the disabled toilets. Very ‘not my problem Jack’.

Primaryteach87 · 19/11/2017 17:15

Honestly if you have twins and are travelling alone, sometimes the only way to wee is to take the buggy into the disabled loo with you. I always am as quick as humanly possible and feel bad but it is literally that or wet myself!

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 19/11/2017 17:24

A child in a pram doesn’t make it ok to use the disabled toilets. Take them out FFS.

TheFairyCaravan · 19/11/2017 17:25

So many selfish fuckers in the world.

Disabled people have one toilet to use. That is all. Having a child of the opposite sex, a buggy, twins, or any other of the feeble excuses that are dragged out time and time again, does not give you the right to use it.

Sayyouwill · 19/11/2017 17:27

@Primaryteach87 you can buy prams where one is above the other. It’s no wider than a standard pram. If you had one of these then you can do what other people do and piss in the end cubicle with the door open and your pram facing you. Or plan your journey. Go places that have larger toilets designed for parents with prams! They often have a baby changer in there and a seat. Or just have a wee before you leave the house.

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