To hate the now common usage of "santa"

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Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

I’ve never called him Father Christmas. It’s always been Santa.

It’s Sinterklaas in the Deer household as DH is a native Dutch speaker. I trust there’s nothing vulgar about that?

Scottish. Always Santa. Never Father Christmas. Often St. Nick.

I think it seems a little bit unhinged to say that you 'hate' it.

In a world consisting of evil people and desperate situations, you choose to 'hate' the word Santa? Really?

I am reading sinisterklass which is really unnerving

This is such Hyacinth Bouquet snobbishness.

Of course Santa is fine. It's from St. Nicholas.

Bythepower
This thread has made me want to reread Jilly Cooper's books. I shall ask Santa for some.
:)

I find father christmas really cringed personally

*cringey

I think the ridiculous people aren’t the ones who just say FC, like my granny, but the ones who think they are being ‘dead classy’ in doing so.

Do these people actually exist? Obviously your granny is authentic, but the rest of us who use the original English name of 'Father Christmas' are just desperate MC wannabes, enthusiastically shouting about quinoa in Waitrose in our spare time...

The oracle that is Wikipedia agrees that Santa Claus is American (taken from the Dutch immigrants) and that Father Christmas is English and that they were not originally the same person. It reckons that 'Santa Claus' arrived in England in the 1850s. I'm saying 'England' because it does, by the way, not because I think Scotland is the same thing... It's quite interesting, actually!

That tallies with what I've read. The time we had Dutch 'immigrants' in the UK was William and Mary (17c) so potentially it could have come over with them. But there's no evidence of its use that far back.

I use both terms interchangeably; is there a rule that you have to choose one and stick to it all the time??

Anyway, he's Captain Christmas to me now (thanks to this thread) which I also think should be my festive name change

Father Christmas originally green. Representing the coming of Spring. Bringer of happiness in winter.

Santa Claus. Saint Nicholas. Red robes. Arrived in Norman times. Secret gift giver.

Two different people folks!

Oh dear god, the things some people have to worry about. Poor children, getting corrected because they say Santa!

Always been Santa here in northern ireand. Only one I've ever heard call him father Christmas is peppa pig...

Do these people actually exist? Obviously your granny is authentic, but the rest of us who use the original English name of 'Father Christmas' are just desperate MC wannabes, enthusiastically shouting about quinoa in Waitrose in our spare time..

Based on some of the responses on here I would say they do exist!

Obviously not everyone, other than my granny, who says Father Christmas is like that though. That was the entire point of my post fgs! It’s just that some people are and I find that quite amusing.

Do you think Captain Christmas should have a new outfit? Big CC on the front?

I imagine Captain Christmas would wear a cape...

I married into a Scottish family. I am from deep down South. I always knew the present giver as "Father Christmas". Grandma comes down from Scotland and wants to know what "Santa" has bought the children. Cue children looking at me and wondering who this Santa person is...

Santa Claus derives from Sinterklauus which I believe is a deivation of Saint Nicholas (or Nikolos, as he would probably have been called where he came from)

I find the idea that some people correct their children if they say Santa to be so cringe. Now THAT is try hard.

"Oh dear god, the things some people have to worry about."

MN Xmas tradition! There are usually at least three threads on this every year

I am working class, northern and say Father Christmas, Santa Claus at a push.
Santa gives me the shudders.
As does baubles, we always called them wessail cups, but am probably in a minority!

I imagine Captain Christmas would wear a cape..

Have you not seen the incredibles?

I love Father Christmas and don't like Santa at all. It doesn't sound stuffed shirt to me, just friendly. DD says both interchangeably.