To hate the now common usage of "santa"

[Creambun2]

Just this really. Santa is a vulgar Americanism.

What was wrong with father Christmas ffs.

I know that there’s a Scottish NT, my issue was with their use of “British”, for the reasons a PP lists here:

There is a snobbery which feels the need to rewrite history according to a hierarchy where British is best, only English British is really British, only Southern English is really English, and everybody's childhood took place in some fantasy land of cultural isolation.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFILjgAK0E

Couldn’t bear to read 13 plus pages after reading ‘pffft ‘o’irish’ then’... can’t veleive no one picked this up as being so racist!

That video isn’t aimed at you Deep.

Can we just introduce a rule of thumb for mumsnetters? If you are coming on here and to have a winge about things being 'vulgar amercan imports' (see also Halloween), don't just jump in but double check that thought.

Have a google, preferably check with any Scottish/Irish friends you have, ask your northern English relatives, because past performance would say there's a good chance you are wrong in your assumptions and risk coming across like a blinkered southern English fool.

@laurie

I’d like to second that^^ suggestion.

I third it!

I agree but would like to add ask a Welshie too. :)

Oh and if you’re using Windows, an iPhone, Android to post here while slagging off Americans, that is that absolute height of irony!

He's always been Santy/Santa in this neck of the woods (Ireland) but interestingly, in Irish he is 'Daidí na Nollaig' which translates as Father Christmas... go figure!

Notreallyarsed Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving when all the stores have massive sales (kind of like the Boxing Day sales) and people get into fights in Walmart’s all over the nation trying to buy a cheap tv. So called because it’s traditionally the day the stores go from being in the red to being in the black.

Then Amazon decided the UK needed it too and I think a load of other stores decided to follow suite.

This thread is funny! We are a Dutch/English family (Dunglish, if you will 😉).
Whilst I don’t use or like the term Santa Claus, I think it’s bizarre to call it “vulgar Americanism” & all that such a derogatory term implies.

Yes, apparently our Sinterklaas became Santa Claus. This is rather stupid since Sinterklaas visits children every night from 30 November to 5 December & is a bishop who rides a white horse & has Pieten rather than elves. Originally from Turkey but now residing in Spain, he travels to the Netherlands by steam boat. I cannot see why people would confuse him with Father Christmas. It is the Kerstman (Father Christmas) who brings a single gift on Christmas Eve.

In our family, we have Sinterklaas & Father Christmas in order to combine the two traditions, with FC being more anglicised. It has always been a source of confusion (& sometimes tantrums) for DCs friends when they have excitedly shared with friends that Sint is bringing them the “big gift” on 5 December & non-Dunglish/non-Dutch child wants to know why they aren’t getting one!

I’m 50, in NE Scotland and it’s always been Santa here

I found it strange when my English XH and XMIL said Father Christmas

I always told my DC it was Santa

meditrina

I’m Pagan and have always called him Santa

Never ever used Father Christmas

@MakeItStopNeville thanks, I had never heard of it until recently. Our local Tesco turned into riot central with people fighting over tellies that had 10% off

Do you think the OP has run away?

I appear to be the only Scot on here who was raised to know him as Father Christmas. Never gave it much thought tbh. The use of "Santa" always seemed a modern thing to me rather than a class thing but that's probably because I didn't hear it till I was older. I suspect that is why some view it as an "Americanism" as it had crept into their consciousness as they grew up at the same time as many actual "Americanisms" did. In American films and TV shows. I don't think it's "vulgar" but it does still sound odd to me. Meh. Captain Christmas all the way. Do you think he's got a rocket ship like Flash Gordon?

Do you think he's got a rocket ship like Flash Gordon?

I’m glad you asked! Yes, I do. I imagine it is shaped like a Christmas cracker.

Oh for those that asked. My pic of the Captain was on Google. I was going to draw him but was too lazy. Lol

I’m glad you asked! Yes, I do. I imagine it is shaped like a Christmas cracker
Excellent 😁

So he does exist! Where has Captain Christmas been my whole life?

I think the OP is sulking in a corner after being put on the naughty list.

Ah. He only visits if you've been good. I'll leave it to your conscience

I've never said Father Christmas. In my part of Scotland it always has been, and still is, Santa

It’s Father Christmas. Santa is awful.