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to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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mothertruck3r · 16/11/2017 08:43

The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

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Julie8008 · 16/11/2017 17:36

The whole system of home ownership, social housing and private tenancies based on the BTL market needs to be rethought.

Absolutely right. How about we redistribute some of the wealth in expensive homes after the owners have have died and use it to pay for caring for people in their old age. Do you think Corbyn would support that or not? Confused

Autocorrectible · 16/11/2017 17:59

Because he will ruin the economy. His policies are unaffordable, he will bankrupt the country. I could never, ever vote for him and his communist views. I’m terrified he will actually get in. The country is screwed now, but I don’t think people realise how much more screwed it will be with him in charge

ChelleDawg2020 · 16/11/2017 18:14

People see through Corbyn's lies. Just because someone hates the Tories it does not automatically mean they like, trust or believe an alternative politician.

At least with the Tories you know what you are getting. Sometimes people would rather deal with the person who is openly nasty rather than the person they know is equally unpleasant but pretends otherwise. The Tories screw us over and are open about it, Labour are jumping for a chance to screw us over but lie.

All Corbyn needs to do to get elected is to publish what he would do if he got into power, rather than give the usual opposition point of view - "everything you do is wrong, but we can't give you an alternative that might be better."

Corbyn, Cable, Lucas, Sturgeon, Bolton, Walker, Wood, whoever. All politicians mislead, most are downright dishonest. No matter how shit the Tories are, there currently is no better alternative.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 16/11/2017 18:17

Corbyn will disarm this country. Give that some thought.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 16/11/2017 18:30

Because he is a terrorist sympathiser, who makes excuses for antisemitism and sexism

Is my reason why I won’t vote for Labour. Corbyn, McDonnell, Milne and Lansman are in control of the party so another reasons why I won’t though shall stay on as a member to vote him out

And also they are not putting forward an alternative Brexit plan Corbyn was good during the election campaign but what use is that when you still can’t put forward a solid plan an alternative

There is another reason and that is we have no strong central party now labour have moved to the left and the Tories picked up many centre votes May actually ended up with a high percentage of votes

BMW6 · 16/11/2017 18:34

I have voted Labour often in previous GE's, but will NEVER vote for them with Corbyn and co in the driving seat. I do not trust them economically and believe they would do more harm to the poor and disadvantaged than the Tories ever could. I truly believe it would be very Orwellian under their administration.

Tanith · 16/11/2017 18:55

"Oldies like myself can remember the last socialist government and as a child, it was fun sat at home in the dark whilst our parents enjoyed a three day week with strike after strike."

You don't remember very well, then.

The three day week and associated strikes were under Ted Heath's TORY Government!!
Labour was not in power for the whole of the 70s - far from it! The Conservatives have been putting about this lie for decades, though, because they want Labour blamed for the disastrous Heath years.

derxa · 16/11/2017 18:57

the MN demographic knows perfectly well that we will be the cash cow for Labour's socialist Utopia, and ain't too keen on it! That's about the size of it. I'm old enough to have lived through the time the Trades Unions ruled Britain. It was bloody awful.

CardinalSin · 16/11/2017 19:01

Because he's a dinosaur and an idiot. Not to mention various other unsavoury things about him. The sooner they get rid of him and put someone like Keir Starmer in charge the better it will be for everyone.

The Tories are so revolting at the moment that I would probably feel I have to vote Labour at the next election (unless the Lib Dems have a better change of defeating the Tories in my local constituency), but I'd feel like I have to hold my nose whilst doing it.

Unfortunately, we are in a situation where you've got to think long term. Teresa May and her cliff edge Brexit will do major damage to this country that will take at least a generation to recover from. Corbyn will also damage the country, but it will be considerably easier to undo the damage that he's likely to cause in a much shorter period of time. He may even do some things that will actually benefit the country (probably mostly by accident). It's not a nice choice to have to make.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 16/11/2017 19:05

Because he is a terrorist sympathiser, who makes excuses for antisemitism and sexism

Is my reason why I won’t vote for Labour. Corbyn, McDonnell, Milne and Lansman are in control of the party so another reasons why I won’t though shall stay on as a member to vote him out

^This although DH and I have left the party (as have other family members) and won't return until he gone.

Gingernaut · 16/11/2017 19:05

It's like Clinton vs. Trump all over again.

derxa · 16/11/2017 19:12

It's like Clinton vs. Trump all over again. It really isn't.

Justanotherlurker · 16/11/2017 19:21

It really isn't.

True, the British electorate didn't fall for the populist approach...

Kursk · 16/11/2017 19:25

It kinda is like Clinton Vs Trump again, in terms of both options being equally bad

derxa · 16/11/2017 19:30

It kinda is like Clinton Vs Trump again, in terms of both options being equally bad Yes when you put it like that Grin

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2017 19:30

Because he comes across as a self absorbed rather unpleasant individual who prefers to fight from the back benches rather than grow a set and lead from the front.

Most folks know he doesn’t want to be in power. He’s nearly seventy and a back bench rabble rouser with some really dodgy politics he has to try to hide from the public.

Say what you will about may, much of it I’d agree with, but at least she’s stepped up and is doing it. Prime minister right now is a thankless and Impossible task. And it’s one that most folks know Corbyn really doesn’t want, he rather sit on the other side and critisice her as she drinks from the poison chalice to try and get us through the shit storm that is brexit. Knowing full well he’d rather quit than pick the chalice up and have a sip himself to help us out.

CardinalSin · 16/11/2017 19:34

"but at least she’s stepped up and is doing it"

No, she really hasn't/isn't.

derxa · 16/11/2017 19:37

Say what you will about may, much of it I’d agree with, but at least she’s stepped up and is doing it. Yes and I admire her for that. She has no charisma at all and listened far too much to her spin doctors.

Rebeccaslicker · 16/11/2017 19:38

I think in strict terms of choosing between agonising constipation and shitting yourself loudly in public, the choice between May and Corbyn is exactly like trump or Clinton!

engineersthumb · 16/11/2017 19:40

I want a centre left government.One clearly opposed to brexit and pro tackling the social and economic inequalities actually responsible for large scale unemployment and lack of security. That is not a Corbyn government, he and his hard left pals are a total disaster for the labour party and responsible for allowing the Tories to get away with this abysmal show.

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 19:43

So do I engineersthumb

and for fucks sake can someone prioritise giving education more money??

Gingernaut · 16/11/2017 19:46

She is incompetent and so desperate to cling on to power that she has formed a cabinet out of the equally incompetent and totally unsuited to power dregs left after a disastrous GE, bribed what can only be described as Loyalist terrorist supporters in order to count on their votes and is trying to steer Brexit when she voted Remain herself. Her heart isn't in what she's doing, she just seems to be there for the sake of power.

He is incompetent and so desperate to cling on to power that he has formed a shadow cabinet out of the equally incompetent and totally unsuited to power dregs left after a disastrous GE, watched and mouthed off ineffectually when she bribed what can only be described as Loyalist terrorist supporters in order to form a minority government and flip flopped ineffectually over Brexit during the referendum and the following GE.

He should have stormed the GE and the fact he didn't tells us everything. The Labour Party has splintered into factions and no longer represents the traditional Labour supporter.

His heart isn't in opposing Brexit, he just seems to be there for the sake of power.

Justanotherlurker · 16/11/2017 20:05

The Labour Party has splintered into factions and no longer represents the traditional Labour supporter.

They haven't for years, they and the most ardent supporters just presumed they could bank on their support

Gingernaut · 16/11/2017 20:17

The GE should have taught them that they can't take us, the electorate, for granted.

Nope, the God Almighty arrogance, complacency and greed for power is still there.

Locally, our MPs are clueless about local issues and the council are simply a smaller version of the pork barrel politics we see in Parliament.

The whole political party system is corrupt.

shhhfastasleep · 16/11/2017 20:20

Spot on, Ginger