to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

Of course it's still profitable even if they pay tax correctly. Are you looking at the figures involved?

Why are you using examples of a business failing to do its job as an example of the repercussions of strict tax law?

"Dutch-based C&A was losing £1 million a week in Britain, having failed to stay in tune with designer fashion"

That's it.

There's no point the UK trying to close the tax avoidance schemes alone as the big corps will just up and move somewhere else. Then there'll be even less money to fund Jezzer's dream. Any fool will realise this.

And anyway, it wouldn't cover all the ridiculous manifesto pledges....."It's all costed" my arse.

There's no point the UK trying to close the tax avoidance schemes alone as the big corps will just up and move somewhere else.

Please. This is not necessarily true at all.

And many corporations like the UK because we have a stable government, predictable rule of law and the best research universities in the world. A highly educated work force. Good infrastructure.

All funded by taxes btw.

Sigh. It's proof that a retailer not making a profit WILL leave the U.K. A retailer that is being highly taxed won't make as much profit.

Nobody is saying every company will leave. But it wouldnt take that many before we seriously notice it. Less tax. Empty high streets. Fewer jobs. Pension funds and landlords not getting rent and looking elsewhere to invest.

And it'll be the PaYE that Corbyn squeezes next, when he has nowhere else to go.

The people who say it'll never happen are v v seldom the ones who work in finance or at the top of a big company or in law.

The EU forced Ireland to charge Apple more tax and what happened? Apple moved outta Ireland. Yip treating profitable companies like your own piggy bank would really help JC give students a 50k bung each. That's not going to backfire at all is it?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-39869118

You can't have it both ways - either you're for the free market or you're not.

Can't make a decent profit while paying the proper amount of tax? You don't have a viable business. Someone else can then fill the void you leave when you shutdown.

That's precisely how the free market is supposed to work.

Corbyn.
Terrorist sympathiser - not.
Anti war/ nuclear weapons - indeed.
Understands the plight of working class people - absolutely.
Believes in investing in education and the NHS - totally.
He may not have the charisma of others, but he’s dedicated, hard working and lives in the real world.
I love him. He isn’t perfect, but next to Tres’eme, I will gladly put my faith in him.

He is no communist. Trust me, I studied politics. Communism and socialism are totally different. He’s never suggested that communism is the way forward.
We need to support the British people who struggle to put food on the table, and clothe their children. Corbyn addresses this at every opportunity.
He may wear cardigans, but he’s sharp, passionate and true to his cause.

Tammy I dont think you have a clue how business works, do you imagine you can just click your fingers and magic up billions more in taxes at no cost to the country or its people? Money will leave the country, costs will go up, jobs will be lost, investment will decrease and all so JC can put on a show of bashing a few bogeymen. The UK is raising more tax than ever because corporation tax is being brought down. Why anyone want to change that is beyond me.

Just on the anti nuclear weapons alone would be a reason for a lot of people not to vote for him currently I should think given the state of the world. I'd rather have a nuclear deterrent than idealism to keep me safe.

Britain will not be invaded. There will be no juntas. There will be no constitutional crisis. Elections are peaceful and honest. We have freedom of speech and rule of law. We invented common law. Contract is predictable. Tort is reasonable. Universities are ranked top of the world. Roads and ports and power all work very well. We speak English. There is a very strong consumer base. Systems are rational.

Many things go in to decision making.

Julie, I run a limited company, so I know precisely how business works, thanks.

You're the one backing a free market approach but complaining that companies can't survive it.

You're the one backing a free market approach but complaining that companies can't survive it A 'free market' is like free speech, a nice idea to aim for but there are lots of restrictions. And if a large company doesn't like the restrictions they can move to a different free market. Or they can hike their prices up and make the poor pay for any tax rises. That's why many people will never vote for Corbyn, they just couldn't afford it.

Companies and people decide where to locate based on a wide range of factors. We all know this to be true.

Planning processes. Access to workforce. Taxes. Infrastructure. The regulatory environment.

So how do those European countries with significantly higher corporation tax rates and more expensive staffing have any companies operating there?

Do you really think that corporation tax is the only tax businesses pay?!

Because sooo many stupid people believe the propaganda spouted in the mainstream media is their own political opinions when in reality they haven’t a clue about what’s going on. Otherwise why would anyone be anti corbyn? It’s ridiculous

So all the reasons given on this one thread alone are just mainstream media and anyone who dislikes or even likes but thinks corbyn's policies are unfeasible is "stupid" and "ridiculous"? Hey mr kettle, mr pot is calling you names....!

Well, it's things like this:

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/11/18/slower-growth-will-force-uk-borrow/

It is just basic macro economics. If you kill growth, you make things much worse. There has been no talk at all from the Tories about fostering economic growth*. And even a little growth makes a huge difference in tax receipts.

They hide behind employment figures which are nonsensical due to terrible productivity/ low wage growth.

*Not helped at all by the Brexit fiasco, btw.

The Momentum bots have taken over this thread.

There is clearly no point arguing with the devoted.

Have Momentum taken over the thread? I don't support Labour, but do wonder why Theresa May polls quite so well as she does, being someone IMO who completely lacks vision and the breadth of knowledge required in a PM.

I don't really think Corbyn is a Leader; his strength, as he demonstrated, is on the hustings - which is important - you need to get your people elected.

Yes usual Momentum crap being spouted as on every other Corbyn thread

I think many can see that May is holding on to her position just but when the Tories absolutely have to pull together they will as they did earlier this year so Article 50 passed they will again thought few are kicking off in the back benches they will soon be whipped into line don’t underestimate the Tories their desire to be in power is greater than Labour’s the only time it complete fell apart was when that faced Blair in opposition

And The Tories won a higher percentage of votes than they did in the previous election with UKIP out of the picture and LibDems not gaining much support both the main parties have that’s why May is still holding on to her job she will be fine before the next election making way for Boris that I do fear

I'm always intrigued by the outcry about "the right wing media" - or any media, come to that. I don't know if any proper research has been done into this, but are people really so easily swayed by media owners' agendas?

I surely can't be the only one who reads from a wide range of sources, researches anything that especially interests me and then makes my own mind up?