to wonder why Corbyn isn't more popular considering the battering Theresa May/the Tories is getting?

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The Tories/Theresa May have been getting an absolute kicking in the press recently (rightly deserved) and every day there seems to be a new controversy. May seems completely inefficient and doesn't seem to know whether she is coming or going (literally).

However, I am surprised that Corbyn/Labour is not polling higher. On all the polls I have looked at his rating seems to be either equal to, very slightly above or very slightly below May. He should be well out in front at this point.

I am not a Corbyn/Labour fan (although agree with a lot of their policies) but I am wondering why is he not polling better?

Labour is dramatically different to New Labour of the 90s and their Tory-lite policies. I don't agree it would be out of the frying pan into the fire. This government have proven that they're incapable of serving the electorate, they need to go, and I'm painfully aware that there are many people who will not survive until the next general election.

A new party that could challenge the status quo would be great wouldn't it? But it isn't going to happen in the short or medium term, and I refuse to believe that the best course of action is allowing this current bunch to continue as they are.
And for all the sarcastic comments, no one expected Corbyn to do as well as he did at the last election. If they had, I suspect the results would have been more dramatic.

TammySwansonTwo And how have labour proven they would be any good?

TammySwansonTwo please don't copy and paste their bullshit manifesto

I honestly don't know what is worse labour or conservative. They both upset me

I honestly don't understand how anyone can vote for someone who is friends with a group that has a fair bit in common with Hitler....

Friends, or facilitating efficient resolution? Thatcher was actual mates with General Pinochet, remember. Do you think Corbyn is penpals with IRA members?

At least the labour manifesto was costed and backed by prominent economists. The tories called the election and couldn't even provide a costed manifesto, especially when they then backed down on policies they claimed were crucial to funding their plans.

What proof would you like exactly from a party that have been out of power, and dramatically changed, for a considerable amount of time? We should just put up with a party who are systematically attacking the most vulnerable and using the poorest as scapegoats while the wealth divide grows and £35bn of tax goes uncollected every year?

Surely they need an opportunity to prove they can do a better job at this point, since staying as we are is a catastrophe.

If you're honestly saying that the media is representing Corbyn as more successful then he is, then I can only assume you're sniffing glue.

Depends if you believe the Canary or Squarkbox only for your information you'd think he was some sort of saviour sent to earth to rescue us all

He would drive this country into the ground even worse than Blair did. He will never be elected leader, bit like Michael Foot.

Yes, so many people rely entirely on The Canary for news. Far more however do rely entirely on The Daily Mail.

TammySwansonTwo Thatcher was an evil murderer too! And i'm sorry but Corbyn is a rich racist.

I think you've missed the point that I hate both parties equally. Just because I despise Labour doesn't mean that I love the conservatives. I want them both to go away. And I don't think getting labour in now will make things better, I think they will make things much worse. We'll end up like venezuala if jezzer gets in....and we won't be able to afford water

We need to see critical thinkers, career economists, brilliant, legislative lawyers and social philosophers in charge ...

We do indeed, but attracting such talent is something else again. It might even be said that many beguiled by politics are, almost by definition, those most unsuited for a public role involving any kind of integrity

On a related issue I notice that - apart from a couple of insults - nobody's accepted my invitation to produce evidence that JC doesn't enable anti semitism, isn't on record as praising Marx and hasn't shown support for terrorists

Perhaps I'd better stop holding my breath ...

Puzzledandpissedoff because they either don't care or understand.... I have said such things to work collegues and they just stare at me blankly and then start talking about how much they love Jeremy because he like cats and porridge.

What frightens me is that JC would wack taxes up even if it brings in less revenues. He seems to thing its better to punish 'rich' people than to actually fund the country because he has waited his whole life to bring down the system.

If he ever got his hands on power he will erect a financial wall and no one will get out of the country until they have handed over all their money.

Julie, do you actually think those are the two options - allow £35bn of tax to go uncollected every year (and that's not including tax lost to legal tax evasion techniques) or taking the entirety of everyone's money? It's scaremongering nonsense.

We have one of the lowest corporation tax rates in Europe and the tories have lowered it again. It's perfectly legal for a company director to pay themselves £8k a year, pay no income tax or NI (but still get free NI credit!) on it, expense as much as possible to their business, pay corporation tax on what's left and then a rate of 5% on dividends up to over £30k a year (and nothing on the first few grand). Oh, and claim tax credits too.

It's only those who are well off and able to afford financial advice and accountants that can do this. Try getting around your PAYE tax rate and see how far you get.

TammySwansonTwo we should be demanding tax from costa, amazon, Topshop et al

Tammy, I don't think anyone is 'allowing' tax to go uncollected. The UK is one of the best countries in the world for collecting tax and there is no evidence that JC would be able to any better.
Lowering corporation has raised more revenue for the country and if JC wacked it back up there would be less money for everyone.
That is why JC has been talking about erecting financial walls so that if he was elected and money started flooding out of the country he could seize it.

That is why it worries me that he is more interested in punishing people than actually increasing tax receipts.

The priority has to be to get them out - without checking what would be going in? Really? What planet is the cotton candy lalaland on anyway?!

No, not without checking. Votes are made on the basis of manifestos, what more do you want a party that's not in power to do?

The priority is still getting these fuckers out right now, they are doing far more damage.

You think so. Others think Corbyn would do more damage.

So they're not allowing it? What do you call allowing corporations to consult on tax law, and literally not enforcing tax collection to the tune of tens of billions a year? The entire tax credits bill as it happens!

It has nothing to do with punishment. If someone is profiting from the people of the country, they need to pay their determined share of tax. If a small number of wealthy people companies are taking vast sums out of the economy and not contributing back as agreed, what do you think will happen to the pot?

Of course they should. You think Costa and topshop are going to pull out of the UK if they're made to pay proper levels of tax? It would still be vastly profitable for them to be here!

He is popular. Very popular, haven't you been following British politics?!

There you go again - lalalalalalala! Yes, ANY corporation will move if it's not profitable. They aren't charities. They start with cutting operations and salaries and raising prices and eventually they go, if it's not worth their while to be here. Unless you're in charge, you don't get to say where that point is. Meanwhile the tax that was raised on sales and salaries etc is lost as the operation shrinks.

A tanking economy will see less profits and fewer corporations investing.

In the 70's you'd have said C&A would never leave the UK...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1343188/Thousands-of-jobs-go-as-CandA-closes-all-its-British-stores.html