To be amused at a discussion I can overhear?

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At work and currently listening in on a discussion where one woman is trying to explain to a colleague that Jesus was Jewish. Colleague isn't having it

Obviously Jesus was jewish.

DJBaggySmalls It comes from this site: www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a234/1282186/

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You should have a look at some of the US fundie sites.

There are serious concerns about Bibles translated in to Spanish.

Who would have thought he'd come back as a kebab shop owner.

This thread reminds me of when my family come round for Christmas, where half of us are talking about Jesus and half are talking about Paul O'Grady's marital status and everyone is just trotting out random things they know, speaking at the same time.

I thought the Bible described Jesus as being fat, bald and olive skinned?

No that's Harvey Weinstein.

Actually JWs do believe that Jesus is the son of God
It’s the Trinity they don’t subscribe to isn’t it?

Iris65 popular mechanics has a website!

That's not Jesus. That's the bloke who runs the kebab shop I'm an embarrassingly frequent customer of.

To misquote the late, great Kirsty MacColl, "There's a guy works down the kebab shop swears he's Jesus"

In dhs family it's the sugar free jam argument that makes me want to explode.

Dh "I really miss jam" (Dh has diabetes & would live on jam)*
Mil "you should have the sugar free jam we have"
Dh "what? you can get sugar free jam? Why don't we have that"
Me "there's no such thing as sugar free jam, fruit is sugar, sugar free jam would be an empty jar because you wouldn't be able to put the main ingredient in it"
Mil "it is sugar free jam. Sainsburys makes it oh, it is reduced sugar" still contains a fuckload of sugar

Every year we have this discussion. I've got more intolerant of it as I age. Some years I just sigh and say we've had this discussion & I'm not doing it again. It's a common misconception, I had a patient with terrible blood sugar levels & lots of no added sugar jam in the cupboard. Because that makes it sugar free 🙄

*dh gets other treats so don't send the society for the protection of husbands after me.

I never thought of this before, but if all the Jews at the time had bought into Jesus being the son of god, would Judaism have changed, and Christianity never come into existence as a separate religion at all? And presumably in that case the Romans never would have converted, so would we all be worshipping the old Roman gods now? That's really interesting, it would have changed the entire course of European history.

popular mechanics has a website!

I know!

Forget about hinting that he wasn't white - drop in that he didn't actually exist and watch the fireworks.

My mum's a JW. They do believe that Jesus is the son of God, but definitely not that he is God himself (the Trinity).

I think I'm right in saying that they believe Jesus is the physical manifestation of a very senior angel called Michael.

If all the Jews at the time had bought into Jesus being the son of god, would Judaism have changed, and Christianity never come into existence as a separate religion at all?

I thought Jesus arrived because the Jews had lost their way - hence the New Testament - but I think you're right, Christianity wouldn't exist if the Jews had accepted that He was the promised Messiah.

I've been trying to convince a colleague of mine fir years that Stevie Wonder is actually blind.

@PuppyMonkey there’s a very real possibility we’re related then. I look forward everyone speaking accross each other and getting the wrong end of the wrong stick. Particularly helps when family members have same name.

Although I did have to explain once to a friend of a friend that; no unicorns weren't real; and no this wasn't because they'd gone extinct

You might want to apologise to her: mic.com/articles/139136/unicorns-were-real-and-they-went-extinct-way-later-than-we-originally-thought#.OZbIFjERw

Forget about hinting that he wasn't white - drop in that he didn't actually exist and watch the fireworks

Jesus the man almost certainly did exist. This is not really in dispute.

DailyMail The historical person Jesus of Nazareth did exist. There is documentary evidence of a person of that name causing problems for the Romans in that region at that time, but the real question is whether He was the Son of God. There's a lot of discussion about whether He ever made that claim Himself or whether it was attributed to Him by the Gospel writers.

Ooh, we had a discussion at dinner the other day where my Dh won’t have it that Jesus probably wasn’t white. He said it had been proven. 20 yr ds and myself were 😱 Dh said we had to stop discussing as it would end in a rowing

Does "end in a rowing" translate as "There's a substantial danger DH will have to admit he's talking nonsense"?

And presumably in that case the Romans never would have converted, so would we all be worshipping the old Roman gods now?

I'm not sure what led Christianity to seek converts, is there some reason to suppose it wouldn't have that aspect if it had absorbed Jews at the start?

It's such a ridiculous argument because being Jewish and Christian aren't necessarily mutually exclusive anyway. You can believe that Jesus was the Son of God etc whilst also being the child of a Jewish mother thus making your Jewish halachically.

I once worked with a girl who couldn't understand that ducks weren't fish, because "they live in water like fish do"

I hadn't really considered it as Christianity looking for converts, just that the first emperor who converted did so partly out of political expediency, and there wouldn't have been any advantage to him in adopting a religion that his empire had already dismissed. But I know virtually nothing about it, I'm just guessing.

Reminds me of Christmas 2007.

16 people round the table, noisily chatting away and laughing.

Legendary comment made by otherwise rational, intelligent, non-pissed, 30something cousin:
"Okay, so answer this...why did Popes exist before Jesus, then, as well? Hmm?"

15 people:

A decade on, he still fails to see why we were so bewildered.

GherkinSnatch How about the fact they've got wings and feet and feathers and fly? How on earth can anyone believe ducks are fish?