To be amused at a discussion I can overhear?

[brasty]

At work and currently listening in on a discussion where one woman is trying to explain to a colleague that Jesus was Jewish. Colleague isn't having it

Obviously Jesus was jewish.

Sadly you don't get many Polish jews, as most were killed in the Holocaust wiping out whole family lines.

Sorry i should have said - in the bible

Who is Paul OGrady ?

Lily Savage as was

I think you're mistaken. That's not Jesus. That's the bloke who runs the kebab shop I'm an embarrassingly frequent customer of. Honestly, the resemblance is scary

It's the second coming! Hallelujah. Who would have thought he'd come back as a kebab shop owner.

Depends on your definitions. 9 countries today have the death penalty if a muslim renouces their faith - apostacy. Catholics would also say once a Catholic always so.

So if you mean you cannot change your religion then clearly that is not so and Jesus founded a new church arguably. However if we mean Jewish by race then he was certainly Jewish if he existed at all.

Well, I suppose that technically Jesus was Christian as well as being Jewish, since he believed that he was the son of God which is probably the single core of Christian belief. Which would also make Mary and Joseph the first Christians since they believed Jesus to be the son of God before he was even born. I don't see how anyone could believe that he wasn't Jewish though.

My RE teacher at school said that Christianity was exclusively a Jewish sect at the start and some of the founders of the church didn't want it to be open to non-Jews to join. Although Keralan Christians (from whom my H is descended) believe that their faith was founded by doubting Tomas just a couple of years after the cruxifixction and they were unlikely to have been Jewish before Christianity.

June Instead of loaves and fishes, does he do the same trick with kebabs?

Why are some people so stupid. Even if you know very little about the history of Christianity, basic logic dictates that Jesus cannot be his own follower

@Nonibaloni
I love arguments that carry on when a google would solve it. Personal favourite whether Paul O’Grady had ever been married, in my mums one happy Easter.
Same. We don't argue in this house anymore. We reach for our phones and google. The person in the wrong goes silent the says a quiet sorry you were right

Whatcha might be on to something

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You should also tell your colleague that he wasnt born on December 25 either... .

March or something wasnt it?

MyVisionsComeFromSoup

Actually JWs do believe that Jesus is the son of God.

one can assume he dabbled in Christianity.

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That's one of the funniest things I've ever read!

brasty kebabs and a can of Coke

poorly this is from Islamqa and explains better what I was trying and failing to articulate

“What we have mentioned means that the religion brought by ‘Eesa was Islam, if what the questioner meant was to find out and ask about his religion.
But if he was asking about the lineage of the Messiah (peace be upon him) and the people among whom he was born and to whom he was sent, then the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was indisputably one of the Children of Israel, the Children of Israel who subsequently became known as the Jews, as we have indicated above”

So it is considered that his ‘lineage’ is of the Children of Israel (Jewish) - interesting as the Old Testament also refers to Israelites of course, not Jews - but they consider the religion he brought to them to be Islam. I’m quite enjoying learning about this!

Can you also drop in the nugget that Wesley didn’t found the Methodists?

His followers did. He did not want a separate church at all.

Like Jesus.

It's the second coming! Hallelujah. Who would have thought he'd come back as a kebab shop owner

Maybe it’s actually Saint Pitta at the pearly gates 😎

brasty

I know that and I'm not making light of it, my colleague was just incredulous that any Polish person could be Jewish! I have no idea what her thought process could have been!

HollyHop I could easily drop that in around a discussion about Christmas

amusedbush I have heard anti semitic people from a few different countries, claim there is no Jewish people in their country.

Evie

I had a hilarious convo with a younger cousin about that one. Even after google proved it he still wasnt having any of it!

amusedbush send her here, she can join DD's yr5 class. They're doing World War II as their topic this term.

EvilDoctor

That sounds about the level of explanation she needs!

Yes it's basically, "Hitler was a bastard, and sent soldiers to Poland to kill millions of Jews."