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AIBU to withdraw consent for hpv vaccine

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Ilovehamabeads · 08/11/2017 21:15

Signed the forms ages ago for DD to have the HPV vaccine tomorrow. I didn't really read up on it, other than the NHS info leaflet she bought home with the consent form.
Tomorrow is the day she's due to have the first jab. I'm now regretting signing that form so readily, having read more about it. I know in my head that the stories I've read are just the very, very few that went wrong out of millions. But, at the same time I'm thinking what if..
Would it be totally ridiculous to change my mind at the last minute? I think I just need a few people to tell me I'm an idiot for believing the evidence of a few, over the evidence of many!

OP posts:
TrendAlert · 09/11/2017 02:02

HPV is so prevalent that if you have sex with someone who has had sex with another partner, you will have it. It is a cancer preventative - anyone would be mad (and downright neglectful parents) to deny their children access.

And hepatitis B vaccines - it prevents liver cancer in the same way. Chronic hep B caught in childhood almost always ends up becoming liver cancer in their 40s. It is so important.

Italiangreyhound · 09/11/2017 03:02

YABU. I would let her be vaccinated. My dd will be having it next year.

Thanks
Jedbartletforpresident · 09/11/2017 03:07

Please, please, please don't withdraw consent. As someone whose life has been turned upside down by hpv-related cancer I can assure you that all of my DC will be getting the vaccine - DS included.

Jedbartletforpresident · 09/11/2017 03:10

Oh, and for the lovely posters upthread suggesting that it's not necessary unless you sleep around and start being sexually active at a young age - bollocks!!! Our situation is proof that that is utter crap - and really fucking offensive crap too. Posts like this do so much damage - both to the chances of universal uptake, and also to those going through hpv-related cancer. Don't you dare fuckinh shame us!

HashtagTired · 09/11/2017 03:11

YANBU to withdraw consent at this late stage. That’s up to you.

But.

YABU to withdraw consent for the reasons you have set out. IMO.

Fosterquestions · 09/11/2017 03:13

There’s no way I would let a child have hpv vaccine (and I’m pro all other vaccination). I know too many people who have become ill from it, seriously ill and it’s been banned in countries like Spain and Japan for being unsafe

Atenco · 09/11/2017 04:50

Chronic hep B caught in childhood

Sorry, remind me again, how do you catch hepatitis B?

Pansiesandredrosesandmarigolds · 09/11/2017 04:51

Yabu

RumerGodden · 09/11/2017 04:52

You're feeling wobbly, because after all the MMR woo stuff has finally been properly debunked, the anti-vaxxers' next big target has been the HPV vaccine - that has the nice double whammy of rolling in some moral judgement about girls needing to keep their legs crossed etc.

There is heaps of very convincingly reproduced bullshit out there - no, Japan has not withdrawn from the vaccine program, no, an original inventor of the vaccine has not "spoken out", no, there is no proof that "all those girls" dropping dead/collapsing/suddenly getting CFS/ME following the vaccine had ANYTHING to do with the vaccine....any events closely related in time to the vaccine administration has been jumped on despite no evidence of causation.

If you have the education and training to read and understand peer reviewed scientific articles about HPV, do so. If not, talk to your GP or gynae about their qualified opinion.

My gynae said the only linked effect noticed had been an increase in teenage girl hysteria and associated symptoms from the excitement of it all!

Pansiesandredrosesandmarigolds · 09/11/2017 04:56

‘Japan has banned the HPV vaccine’

Er, no. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/f6f7b394-bba2-11e6-8b45-b8b81dd5d080

TrendAlert · 09/11/2017 05:41

Atenco It's a blood-borne virus. Passes from mother to child incredibly easily - childbirth is messy. It also lives on objects for many days - bleeding gums, shared toothbrushes. Adult works with their hands, has open blisters and then assists their child with a grazed knee. In many populations it has a high prevalence. Testing, treatment and vaccination are so important - it's a ticking time bomb disease. When you start feeling bad, the liver is already very damaged. :(

sonlypuppyfat · 09/11/2017 05:48

I put it off for a year

Proudmummytodc2 · 09/11/2017 05:49

I’m 26 I had this vaccine when I was at secondary school I have had no problems at all from it. I have had clear smears every time since I was 20 and I just received my latest ones yesterday and they are normal too.

cervical cancer runs in my family and both my mum and auntie have had to have full hysterectomies.

I think the vaccine done something for me. Please get her it, it’s actually no more dangerous than any other vaccine she’s had done.

Kaytey · 09/11/2017 05:57

I wish this had been available for me.

Repeat colposcopy appointments, smears every 6 months, a lletz treatment where you can actually watch (if you want) and smell as they burn away parts of your cervix hosting the suspect cells.

Don't get me wrong, absolutely preferable to CC and very glad that the treatment is available - but a vaccine when I was at school to prevent - an absolute no brainer for me.

Nurse explained to me that I could have had HPV in my system for a very long time, a lot of people do, but it remains dormant - I've been with my partner for nearly ten years and it's only in the last three years that I have had an abnormal smear.

littlebird7 · 09/11/2017 06:31

Having had some of my cervix removed due to stage three CC and gone through painful and horrible colposcopies I would absolutely recommend the vaccine. I have to have smears every year for the rest of my life and it was very very unpleasant to say the least and caused a great deal of worry.

Notreallyarsed · 09/11/2017 06:35

No way was she letting her have it. And as she was not sexually active til 19, and has only had 2 partners, and there is no history of cervical cancer in her family, my niece will probably be fine anyway.

There’s no history of cervical cancer in my mum’s family, and she and my dad have only ever been with each other, they got married when she was 27. She died in June of metastatic cervical cancer. Horrific is not the word. Give the vaccine ffs.

Atenco · 09/11/2017 06:42

It's a blood-borne virus. Passes from mother to child incredibly easily - childbirth is messy.

So isn't the logical thing to test pregnant women for hep B and give the offspring of infected women this vaccine, rather than giving it to every single baby?

pigeondujour · 09/11/2017 06:45

So isn't the logical thing to test pregnant women for hep B and give the offspring of infected women this vaccine, rather than giving it to every single baby?

No. Hope this helps

Chrisinthemorning · 09/11/2017 06:50

Let her have it. I know a mid30s woman fighting throat cancer- non smoker and she’s been told it’s HPV related.
I am hoping boys will get the vaccine by the time DS is that age or I will pay privately for him to have the vaccine.

Mablethorpe · 09/11/2017 06:51

DD has hers last year. There was only one girl in the whole year group who didn’t have it and her parents had the same irrational worries as you OP.

YouAndMeAreGoingToFallOut · 09/11/2017 06:58

I didn’t become sexually active until 19. Ive only ever had one partner. He had two before me. Didn’t stop me presenting with abnormal cells requiring two loop treatments.

KingPrawnOkay · 09/11/2017 07:00

Is this the cervical cancer vaccine? I didn’t have it, we were the first school year to be offered it and my mum didn’t like what she read. At the time the information even from trustworthy sources wasn’t consistent - and at least at the time anyway it only lasted three years and we were all only 13. That said, I’m guessing it’s improved over the years, but do whatever you think is best and make sure you’re only reading from reliable sources.

TrendAlert · 09/11/2017 07:03

So isn't the logical thing to test pregnant women for hep B and give the offspring of infected women this vaccine, rather than giving it to every single baby?

Well, to get technical, babies born to HBV positive mothers get an additional treatment (immunoglobin) with the vaccine to help prevent vertical transmission.

Hep B is easily sexually transmitted in young adults. Say a white Brit travels to SE Asia (where's it's endemic) in their gap year and engages in unsafe sex. The infection itself seems like a virus and passes. But can become chronic in some people and lies quietly in the background, damaging the liver with no symptoms.

The hep B vaccine is a liver cancer prevention. Liver cancer is an awful way to die. Every child deserves a chance to avoid this - why would you withhold it from your child?

blobatina · 09/11/2017 07:08

I'll be paying for my boys to have it if it isn't available on the NHS (will there still be an NHS) by then.

Nothingrhymeswithfamily · 09/11/2017 07:16

I'm another one planning on paying for my boys to have it.
It protects against more than just cervical cancer. Why risk it?

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