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AIBU to withdraw consent for hpv vaccine

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Ilovehamabeads · 08/11/2017 21:15

Signed the forms ages ago for DD to have the HPV vaccine tomorrow. I didn't really read up on it, other than the NHS info leaflet she bought home with the consent form.
Tomorrow is the day she's due to have the first jab. I'm now regretting signing that form so readily, having read more about it. I know in my head that the stories I've read are just the very, very few that went wrong out of millions. But, at the same time I'm thinking what if..
Would it be totally ridiculous to change my mind at the last minute? I think I just need a few people to tell me I'm an idiot for believing the evidence of a few, over the evidence of many!

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Barbaro · 08/11/2017 22:41

Well least you know now you've been naive and followed the advice of the same morons who think MMR causes autism.

Just remember the story of the woman who didn't give her 4 children the meningitis jab because of some bs and all 4 contracted it. All 4 of her children nearly died because of her stupidity. Think of that if you ever think 'I don't know if this vaccine is worth it'. It's you know, that or death. Pick one.

glitterlips1 · 08/11/2017 22:43

It is one I would want my DD to have. I am quite pro vaccine my children are up to date with theirs but after a bad experience and lots of
research I have just refused consent for my DD to have the flu nasal vaccine at school. Therefore, I think do your research then go with what you feel is right for your daughter.

JamPasty · 08/11/2017 22:46

Of course they are going to insist it is safe; they are not going to admit it's not are they? - of course they would, just like they have withdrawn drugs from that market when they were found to be unsafe.

HippyChickMama · 08/11/2017 22:51

My best friend had cervical cancer at 27 due to HPV. She had only had one sexual partner at that point that she’d been with since she was 17. It resulted in her having most of her cervix removed. Last year she had another abnormal smear and they thought the cancer was back but it was “only” pre cancerous cells. She’s 38 now and facing IVF to conceive her first child and then if she does conceive she will have to have her uterus sewn shut where her cervix should be. Not just a single stitch but a Shirodkar procedure followed by a c section if she carries successfully to term.

Chouetted · 08/11/2017 22:51

I chose to have it last year as an adult. I had a very sore arm after the first jab, and consequently a restless night, but honestly effects-wise it paled in significance to the BCG jab we all had at at your DDs age. It's been in use for a long time now, must be about ten years.

It really could be lifesaving for both your daughter and her future sexual partners. There is no conspiracy theory. The smear screening program is not perfect. Men don't even have a screening program for their HPV-associated cancers. This jab helps to fill those gaps.

StaplesCorner · 08/11/2017 23:02

The same vaccine hasn't been in use for 10 years. My DD had a bad reaction to the first dose; we saw the paediatrician he said not to have any more and that based on her initial reaction, no one would give her the second dose in any case.

DD was upset, she was very worried and thought that meant she'd get cancer. I have told her lets see how things go and she can decide at 18. Since then she's had a reaction to another vaccine and it seems she has immune system problems. DD1 had it no worries, so just not sure.

StaplesCorner · 08/11/2017 23:04

Sorry just to clarify DD1 was fine - she had it in the 3 dose version, DD2, 2 years later had the first of the 2 dose vaccine she had an immediate reaction.

JamesBlonde1 · 08/11/2017 23:04

I don't know how I will feel when it is DD's time. I'll probably give consent.

The sister of a friend had it and developed terrible symptoms afterwards. She is paralysed and confined to a wheelchair. My friend and others are involved in bringing a class action to court. I don't know how far on it is or if it's ready to be taken to court yet.

ohtheholidays · 08/11/2017 23:07

I'd say please let her get it one of my dear friends had cervical cancer last year and she has 6 children thankfully she's made a full recovery now but there will be follow ups and there's always that fear of it coming back I don't know how she managed to cope so well and how her family coped because her friends(me included)were devestated and every FB update we were praying for good news.

Keepthebloodynoisedown · 08/11/2017 23:16

Don't send her to school tomorrow. Everything indicates that this is a particularly iffy vaccine.
This just about sums up the anti-vax argument, ‘just believe us when we tell you it’s a bit iffy’.
I personally think that the risk of getting cervical cancer is much greater than the risk of serious side effects.

YetAnotherNC2017 · 08/11/2017 23:19

Like @AlexanderHamilton says, to some extent your consent doesn’t matter.

DDs school rang me because I’d missed part of the back of the consent form - I was told that even if I didn’t consent, my DD would be asked if she wanted it and her wishes would take precedence.

Let your DD have it.

annandale · 08/11/2017 23:23

I'm not neutral on this because I work part of the week in a head and neck cancer unit. I paid for my son to have it, after hearing all the surgeons at work chatting and saying they had paid for it for their boys.

I feel lucky that we have had a few years of data that as far as we can tell indicate that this vaccine is pretty safe.

Kleptronic · 08/11/2017 23:29

I have paid for my son to have it.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 08/11/2017 23:34

I didn't even know you could get it for boys, thanks pps who have brought that up. I'll look into it.

Because after we lost our next door neighbour, who had actually only ever slept with her husband, to cervical cancer it became a bit of a deal round our way. Our own upset was of course nothing compared to the husband and 3 DC she left behind. Flowers

AboutAGallonofDietCoke · 08/11/2017 23:46

All the women I know who have had cervical cancer started having sex at 13-14 and had had 7-10 different sexual partners by the age of 16.

Seriously? What’s the insinuation here? If you get it you’ve only got your own ‘bad girl behaviour to blame? fuck off

My mum caught cervical cancer, from HPV, when I was 5 years old she very nearly died, I have memories of sitting by her bedside in hospital.
She wasn’t sexually active till she was 18 and could count her sexual partners on one hand.

I sincerely hope your kids are ok and they don’t go through cervical cancer because of your ignorance.

AboutAGallonofDietCoke · 08/11/2017 23:46

IT ONLY TAKES ONE PARTNER TO CONTRACT HPV

Stefoscope · 08/11/2017 23:49

Pretty sad to read some of the comments on this thread. Hpv is the most common sexually transmitted virus, in fact, so common that nearly all sexually active people will contract it at some point. It has nothing to do with the number of sexual partners you have. It can be spread even if the partner has no visible symptoms, warts etc. It can present itself YEARS after you've unknowingly had contact with someone. If HPV hasn't caused you health problems, then lucky you. In my case I contracted HPV in my mid 20s after having only ever had one long term boyfriend/ sexual partner for 5 years (using condoms for penetrative sex 100% of the time).

Dobbyandme · 08/11/2017 23:49

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Atenco · 09/11/2017 00:48

The efficacy of this vaccine has not been proved and it does not even claim to prevent all HPV, only certain strains.

AboutAGallonofDietCoke · 09/11/2017 00:55

Some is better than none.

OkPedro · 09/11/2017 01:02

I would advise anyone with a teenage daughter to hold off for a few years before giving the hpv vaccine. I know of two girls who have had serious complications because of the vaccine. I'm far from anti vac my dc have had all their vaccinations but from personal experience I'd wait until more research has been done on this vaccine.
I'm not in the uk but is it the same as here that women don't have a smear test until they're 25?
Why can't that be done every 3 years from the age of 18?

LondonLassInTheCountry · 09/11/2017 01:18

7-10 sexual partners by the time they were 16!!!!!!!

Hmm
Ollivander84 · 09/11/2017 01:21

What Dobby said ^ and that's just genital warts, not even looking at the cancer element. I got them when I was around 19, from sexual contact. Had them frozen off which hurt like fuck. I've been lucky and not had an outbreak since but the itching and pain was really bad

Whatamuddleduck · 09/11/2017 01:55

Please let her have the vaccine.
My sister, mother to 4 beautiful children, non smoker, non drinker, all round healthy lifestyle lady, is currently in the terminal phase of cervical cancer.
Despite only having 2 partners and having regular smears, she won't see 40.
HPV causes a variety of cancers and whilst smears and treatment can be effective, that isn't guaranteed.
I would take a vaccine any day and given the rarity of the vaccine side effects and the devastating consequences of contracting HPV I struggle to see why anyone wouldn't. Hoping this won't happen to you is like shutting your eyes and walking out into a motorway when you have the option of using a bridge. The vaccine is there because HPV is a killer.