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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 11:48

Yes, that has always been the biggest threat that I've thought Trump poses. What will he do when cornered like a ferret yes I'm coining my own phrases now

Peter Jukes‏
@peterjukes

Possible admission over Russian hacked #Podesta emails?
Roger Stone says his Assange intermediary was a 'journalist'.
Nigel Farage said he visited Assange for journalistic reasons

Ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone seeks donations to help pay for his defense in Russia probe

amp.usatoday.com/story/841798001/

Stone told reporters that he declined to tell the committee who had served as his intermediary with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

House investigators quizzed Stone about his advance knowledge of WikiLeaks' release of a slew of embarrassing emails from the account of Hillary Clinton campaign chief John Podesta in the midst of the presidential race.

Stone made cryptic references via Twitter about the expected publication of damaging information related to Podesta just two months before the emails were released. Stone said he wouldn't tell committee members who served as his intermediary with Assange because it was a journalist and their conversation was off the record.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 13:00

Fox News
@FoxNews
.@BorisJohnson: "The American President is just one of the huge, great global brands, and he is penetrating corners of the global consciousness that I think few other presidents have ever done."

badbadhusky · 09/11/2017 13:01

I love how Trump’s requirement for crispy steak has brought an equivalent level of outrage to the thread as his propensity for pussy grabbing, democracy destruction & grubby opportunism (emoluments). The horror! Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 13:13

Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
A Russian presidential aide says Trump and Putin will meet Friday in Vietnam. Sec. of State Tillerson told reporters in Beijing a short while ago that a meeting was not nailed down.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 13:25

Kaitlan Collins‏
@kaitlancollins

Asked why President Trump didn’t take questions from reporters today, Sarah Sanders said, “It was at the Chinese insistence there were no questions today.”

Chuck Todd‏
@chucktodd
China isn’t supposed to have a say about press access. Previous press secs used to fight with Chinese counterparts for press access when in China. Witnessed personally.

Jay Carney‏*@JayCarney*
I once had to tell Chinese officials that Pres. Obama would not show up for the press avail unless there would be a Q&A. They backed down.

Jake Tapper‏
@jaketapper
The Chinese government never wants to take questions from US reporters. In the past American presidents have insisted upon it as a demonstration of standing up for the freedoms our nation believes in. 1/
Here’s President George W Bush with the Chinese President in Shanghai taking a couple questions

t.co/rsEEklMSxm

3/ here’s President Obama and President Xi taking a couple questions in China

t.co/NRzfCr7r5r

4/ there’s nothing strong about acceding to the wishes of an oppressive Communist government by going along with its contempt for freedom of the press. One can issue as many condemnations of Communism as one wants on paper; they’re meaningless if one then bows to totalitarianism.

5/ here’s President Bill Clinton holding a joint presser with the Chinese President at the WH, where questions came on Taiwan, human rights and Tiananmen Square.

t.co/FfYjD6A6Pk

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 13:33

Justin Hendrix‏
@justinhendrix

Brad Parscale, who served as digital director for Trump’s campaign last year and now runs a pro-Trump Super PAC, said he was not aware of Russian operatives on Twitter, Facebook or any other platform that might have been acting to influence voters.

www.adweek.com/digital/trump-campaigns-digital-director-says-he-didnt-know-russian-bots-were-on-twitter-during-the-election/

Andrea Chalupa‏ @AndreaChalupa

For at least two to three years before the election, myself and others wrote about the Kremlin bots that flooded social media. The Guardian had to publish the equivalent of a PSA to address it. This is like a pediatrician saying he wasn't aware of zika:

Andrea Chalupa‏ @AndreaChalupa
"Guardian moderators, who deal with 40,000 comments a day, believe there is an orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/04/pro-russia-trolls-ukraine-guardian-online

Lweji · 09/11/2017 15:07

How and why Trump has been able to tweet from China, where social networks are usually blocked or severely restricted.

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-41924747

cozietoesie · 09/11/2017 15:20

To be expected.

Natsku · 09/11/2017 15:26

Damn, would have been nice if China had kept him off Twitter just so we could get a break.

cozietoesie · 09/11/2017 15:34

He would just have been all ‘pent-up’. It’s his release valve.

Natsku · 09/11/2017 15:39

Somebody should get him a stress ball...

I've just been told by my doctor that I can't fly over to the UK for my brother's hearing (too pregnant), am gutted :( And good morning britain just called to ask me to do an interview so I probably could have got free flights as well goddamnit.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/11/2017 15:42

Natsku Flowers
What time/where is his hearing? Maybe some MNetters can go to give support in your place?

Natsku · 09/11/2017 15:57

It's 28th and 29th of November at the Royal Courts of Justice in London

Natsku · 09/11/2017 15:57

Would be wonderful if anyone could go in my place, he needs all the support he can get.

Fekko · 09/11/2017 16:10

Sorry natsuku but I've missed your story. Can anyone catch me up? I'm passed there twice a day.

Natsku · 09/11/2017 16:17

There's a bit of an explanation of it here fekko www.facebook.com/events/296545204085684/

Fekko · 09/11/2017 16:19

Oh god yes I know that name! How's he holding up?

Fekko · 09/11/2017 16:21

Just read the guardian coverage.

Natsku · 09/11/2017 17:20

Very stressed but hiding it as usual behind jokes and whatnot, his stress comes out physically instead with really bad eczema and now stomach issues.

PerkingFaintly · 09/11/2017 17:28

Oh Natsku!Sad I recognise the name too.

Will be thinking of you all.

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Natsku · 09/11/2017 17:42

Cheers. I have to believe the court will rule in his favour, there's so many reasons for them to do so.

PerkingFaintly · 09/11/2017 17:48

Are you still allowed to fly just now, and can get over and see him before it?

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 18:22

Amy Siskind
@Amy_Siskind
This is sickening! Moore pursued underage girls ages 14, 16 and 18 years-old when he was in his early 30s.

t.co/V9iHNxxn3j?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 18:24

Molly McKew
@MollyMcKew
Russian info architecture worked to bury bad news about Trump during campaign.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/business/technology/ap-exclusive-russia-twitter-trolls-deflected-bad-trump-news/2017/11/09/cab7945c-c560-11e7-9922-4151f5ca6168_story.html

SAN FRANCISCO — Disguised Russian agents on Twitter rushed to deflect scandalous news about Donald Trump just before last year's presidential election while straining to refocus criticism on the mainstream media and Hillary Clinton's campaign, according to an Associated Press analysis of since-deleted accounts.

Tweets by Russia-backed accounts such as "America1st" and "BatonRougeVoice" on Oct. 7, 2016, actively pivoted away from news of an audio recording in which Trump made crude comments about groping women, and instead touted damaging emails hacked from Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta.

Since early this year, the extent of Russian intrusion to help Trump and hurt Clinton in the election has been the subject of both congressional scrutiny and a criminal investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. In particular, those investigations are looking into the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

AP's analysis illuminates the obvious strategy behind the Russian cyber meddling: swiftly react, distort and distract attention from any negative Trump news.

Natsku · 09/11/2017 18:29

No, the doctor won't approve me to fly at all now.

Urgh another sick man, it's good that it's all starting to come out now and people are feeling brave enough to speak up but it's horrid hearing so much of it.

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