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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3073837-Manafort-Destiny-Trump-continued?pg=1

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 21:17

If anyone is in need of a pick me up, the replies on this thread do a pretty good job

twitter.com/andrewtwalk/status/928079632464785408

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/11/2017 21:38

Thanks for the new thread Perking!

The zephyrs of change. Trump continued
AcrossthePond55 · 08/11/2017 21:43

"Harrumph (or other throat clearing noise) I hereby declare my candidacy for ferret weasel catcher in chief. I stand before you today to declare that any and ALL orange weaselly looking things will be exterminated impeached if I am elected. Or even if I'm not elected based on the way things are looking so..... well..... vote for me anyway!"

Across for Weasel Catcher 2018

And thank you for this bully pulpit new thread

badbadhusky · 08/11/2017 21:49

It says something that the ferret was very well camoflaged in Donnie’s dodgy syrup*.

  • syrup => syrup of figs => wig (Cockney rhyming slang, for the benefit of our Anerican cousins.)
badbadhusky · 08/11/2017 21:50

American.

mrsreynolds · 08/11/2017 21:53

😂😂😂😂😂

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/11/2017 22:28

Surprised? Moi?

Trump golf course has ruined dunes habitat, say conservationists
Ecologists suspect construction work for president’s Aberdeenshire golf course will strip moving dunes of SSSI protection
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/08/trump-golf-course-has-ruined-dunes-habitat?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

lettuceWrap · 08/11/2017 22:48

Northwest, there’s been a lot of ill feeling about Trump in Scotland since well before the election. His behaviour regarding his golf course developments here has been appalling and, well, very familiar to how he treats the rest of the world now he president Sad

lettuceWrap · 08/11/2017 22:52

*he’s

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 23:01

Despite being British, it's not something I'd heard before bad! Every day's a school day.

Urgh

John Whitehouse‏
@existentialfish

Sean Hannity just announced on the radio that Fox News has hired Sebastian Gorka.

TheClaws · 08/11/2017 23:12

Thanks for the new thread Perking. I shall bless it with a lovely image I found today.

TheClaws · 08/11/2017 23:14

And also, I have some new bluster from North Korea (their KCNA news site).

Nuclear War Maniacs Will Face Strong Retaliation: KCNA Commentary

Pyongyang, November 6 (KCNA) -- The Trump group is again speaking of possibility of "preemptive nuclear attack" on the DPRK.

At a hearing on the right to use the military force of the president held at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Oct. 30, Secretary of Defense Mattis and Secretary of State Tillerson said Trump has the right to mount a preemptive attack on the DPRK without a parliamentary approval.

They said that in case of north Korea, action can come first before notifying Congress as what was done to Syria as it would be a direct imminent and actual attack on the U.S. They even blustered that if other country is ready to use weapons of mass destruction against the U.S., the situation of ordering to mount a preemptive nuclear attack is imaginable.

Furthermore, they stated that no president renounced the right to mount a preemptive attack and Trump can also exercise the right legally granted to him as a man with the full command of the armed forces.

The essence of wild bluffing made by Mattis and Tillerson is that the U.S. can mount a preemptive nuclear attack on the DPRK without parliamentary approval in case Trump deems it necessary.

Those rhetoric uttered by diplomatic and security chiefs reflective of the U.S. wild ambition for a preemptive nuclear attack is an extremely serious provocation to the DPRK.

No U.S. administration openly claimed preemptive attack on the DPRK as now, an indication that the nuclear threat and blackmail of the Trump group has reached the phase of reckless implementation.

At a time when even U.S. Congress is getting vocal calling for depriving thoughtless lunatic Trump of the right to decide a preemptive attack, the Defense and State secretaries supported him. This speaks volumes for the Trump administration's attempt at invasion of the DPRK.

Their wild rhetoric about "preemptive nuclear attack" on the DPRK clearly proved once again that the DPRK was quite right when it opted for nuclear access and it is the path it has to follow to the last.

Now that the U.S. disclosed its attempt at a preemptive attack on the DPRK, we will face it and strongly react to it with the tremendous nuclear force it has so far built.

It will be the U.S. which is to entirely blame for any ensuing consequences in case a war breaks out on the Korean peninsula. -0-

PlectrumElectrum · 08/11/2017 23:15

I have a ferret aversion. Still bigly place marking though.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 23:23

More on Fox, although hopefully this hideous revelation will help scupper Murdoch's takeover bid

Bill O’Reilly’s Fox Deal Shielded Him From Getting Fired Over Allegations

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-08/o-reilly-s-fox-deal-shielded-him-from-firing-over-allegations

Former Fox News star Bill O’Reilly had a deal with the 21st Century Fox Inc. network that he couldn’t be fired over unproven harassment allegations, a fresh revelation that casts doubt over corporate-governance standards at Rupert Murdoch’s media empire.

O’Reilly’s contract said he couldn’t be dismissed based on an allegation unless it was proven in court, Jacques Nasser, an independent Fox director, told U.K.’s Competition & Markets Authority, according to a summary published Wednesday. O’Reilly, the former host of “The O’Reilly Factor,” has denied all wrongdoing.

Fox has been dogged by criticisms over its handling of sexual-harassment claims made against O’Reilly and Roger Ailes, the now-deceased former CEO of Fox News. While Fox made changes to governance and policies, the controversy has weighed on its 11.7-billion-pound ($15.3 billion) bid for Sky Plc. Competition regulators are reviewing the deal for factors including its impact on media plurality and the Murdochs’ adherence to U.K. broadcast standards.

“It’s another nail in the standards coffin as far as Fox is concerned,” said Steven Barnett, a professor of communications at the University of Westminster. “It speaks volumes about the nature of a company if you can pile up multiple accusations and be protected by such a clause.”

Fox declined to comment.

Contractual clauses such as the one described by Nasser are coming under scrutiny as sexual-harassment claims sweep through Hollywood and beyond, following the downfall of Harvey Weinstein, the movie mogul accused of rape and other wrongdoing at the studio he ran.

Weinstein’s contract at The Weinstein Co. said that as long as Weinstein covered the costs of settlements and judgments for misconduct including sexual harassment, he could keep his job, according to a report by TMZ, which cited the 2015 contract. Weinstein has denied any non-consensual sexual activity.

Nasser, at a hearing with regulators on Oct. 25, said that when the board was informed of sexual harassment allegations against Ailes, it reacted quickly and he left the company within days. But with O’Reilly, it was advised that the situation was different due to the terms of the employment agreement and because the evidence was uncertain.

Board members debated the timing of O’Reilly’s dismissal, Nasser said. Some wanted to dismiss him immediately, while others wanted to wait for his contract renewal, he said. The board didn’t know the value of settlements O’Reilly had made with various accusers, Nasser said, in line with public comments from Fox Chief Executive Officer James Murdoch.

When Fox renewed the contract, it included protections for the company aimed at harassment, including that O’Reilly could be dismissed if the company was made aware of other allegations or if additional relevant information was uncovered in a company investigation, Fox has said.

Fresh allegations of misconduct against O’Reilly surfaced in April, following a New York Times report that five women had received payments from Fox or O’Reilly for agreeing not to sue or talk about their allegations that O’Reilly verbally abused them, subjected them to unwanted advances or made lewd comments.

Fox News announced his departure on April 19, referencing a “thorough and careful review of the allegations.”

In hindsight, there could have been better governance structures in place at Fox News to ensure the board knew of the allegations at an earlier stage, Nasser, a former Ford Motor Co. CEO, told the U.K. competition regulator.

Oversight of Fox News was also addressed by Nasser at the hearing with the CMA. Critics of the Sky takeover have warned of the risk of a “Foxification” of Sky News, alluding to Fox News’s reputation as a network more sympathetic to right-leaning viewpoints, though others have pointed to regulatory commitments that would prevent that. Fox News, which stopped airing in the U.K. in August, was faulted by the U.K. communications regulator this week for prior biased reporting.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 23:27

Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
A Fox News spokesperson confirms that the network has hired Sebastian Gorka as a National Security Analyst.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/11/2017 23:31

Academic at heart of Clinton 'dirt' claim vanishes, leaving trail of questions

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/08/politics/joseph-mifsud-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

(CNN) Joseph Mifsud, the academic suspected of being a link between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, was once a regular on the foreign policy circuit, attending conferences the world over.

Now, after being identified as a key figure in the US special counsel investigation into Russian influence over the 2016 US presidential election, Mifsud has gone to ground.

Last Thursday he disappeared from the private university in Rome where he teaches. Repeated attempts to reach him since have been unsuccessful, though he appears to have read some messages from CNN

annandale · 08/11/2017 23:36

Thanks Red.
Sebastian Gorka. Perhaps the Americans won't be able to stand having him pontificating on Fox. He's so awful.

TheClaws · 09/11/2017 00:32

Who would have thunk it? No need for a wall that Mexico isn’t going to pay for? I hope Trump knows she is saying this, or otherwise she’ll be shown the revolving door too.

thehill.com/homenews/359486-trumps-dhs-nominee-no-need-for-full-us-mexico-border-wall

TheClaws · 09/11/2017 00:36

Pain, I’ve seen a lot more of Gorka on Fox’s Twitter feed, so that doesn’t surprise me. However, the commenters don’t react well to him at all. They know he’s a slimebucket so they must have brought him on for click bait and controversy only.

OuaisMaisBon · 09/11/2017 01:37

Thank you for the new thread, Perking.
Here's something a bit different, it's quite long, though, you"ll need about an hour - I've not watched the whole thing yet, but hope my attention span will last longer than the orange narcissist's. (Quite like that this took place at Exeter University, Alma Mater of JK Rowling, who regularly out-tweets Trump!)
Niall Stanage - A Year of #Trump

whosafraidofabigduckfart · 09/11/2017 01:44

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TheClaws · 09/11/2017 04:48

On the floor of Congress, Rep. Gaetz has called for Mueller to be fired.

verifiedpolitics.com/republican-congressman-just-called-mueller-fired-order-protect-trump/

TheClaws · 09/11/2017 04:52

Meanwhile, Bannon has the knives out for McConnell. He has called for McConnell’s resignation on Hannity. If Bannon’s saying it, the likelihood of it happening is high.

thehill.com/homenews/news/359540-bannon-mcconnell-should-resign-from-leadership-post-after-tax-push

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/11/2017 05:31

I’m not so sure about that theclaws. He backed Gillespie and that didn’t go so well. He’s been anti McConnell for awhile and I’m wondering whether this is an attempt to move the narrative on from his failure at Virginia and get it back to him being on the attack, which is his favourite dynamic.

Saffronwblue · 09/11/2017 05:42

The North Koreans put it quite well. 'thoughtless lunatic'.

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