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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3073837-Manafort-Destiny-Trump-continued?pg=1

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PerkingFaintly · 21/11/2017 22:28

Thank you Pain. An awful long way to go for Zim, and no guarantees the country will take a good path. But a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Meanwhile tonight, did I mention Grin

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:33

I've watched a few videos of people celebrating today on repeat because the pure joy radiating from them is amazing to see. I'm sensing a little joy in your corner too perking Grin

cozietoesie · 21/11/2017 22:36

Mention away, Perking. You’re allowed tonight even though you know that there will have to be an Aftermath. Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:39

Surely my embargo is over now!

cozietoesie · 21/11/2017 22:45

Glad to see you. Were you sweating with withdrawal? Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:53

More than I'd care to admit Blush

And on that note, I'm off to bed!

PerkingFaintly · 21/11/2017 22:55

If I weren't sofa-bound I'd be wagging my tush like the best of them.Grin

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lionheart · 21/11/2017 23:41

Grin Perking

lionheart · 22/11/2017 00:06

As if this will make a difference.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/jared-kushner-horizons-are-collapsing-within-the-west-wing

cozietoesie · 22/11/2017 00:46

I think that it might well make a difference, actually. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:03

I think it will too. As hopefully, will this!

Special Counsel Mueller Probes Jared Kushner’s Contacts With Foreign Leaders

Investigators look into Trump senior adviser’s role in talks about U.N.’s resolution condemning Israel

www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-probes-jared-kushners-contact-with-foreign-leaders-1511306515?mod=e2twp

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:05

Here Are the White House Visitor Records the Trump Administration Didn’t Want You to See

projects.propublica.org/graphics/wh-complex

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:08

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
Holy crap. Hundreds of thousands of fake & stolen identities were used to hijack the FCC's public comment period on #NetNeutrality — and now the FCC is refusing to cooperate with an investigation into it.

Eric Schneiderman
Eric Schneiderman
@AGSchneiderman
Over the last 6 mos, my office has investigated a massive scheme to corrupt the @FCC's comment process on #NetNeutrality by impersonating 100,000s of real Americans.

The FCC has been unwilling to provide information that is critical to the investigation:

medium.com/@AGSchneiderman/an-open-letter-to-the-fcc-b867a763850a

We reached out for assistance to multiple top FCC officials, including @AjitPaiFCC, three successive acting FCC General Counsels, and the FCC’s Inspector General.

Yet we have received no substantive response to our investigative requests.

This misuse of identity by the 100,000s should concern everyone — regardless of party or position on #NetNeutrality.

If law enforcement can’t investigate and prosecute when it happens on this scale, the door is open for it to happen again and again.

In an era where foreign govs have indisputably tried to use the internet to influence our elections, federal and state govt should be working together to ensure that no one can subvert our administrative agencies’ decision-making processes.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:13

Maddow Blog
@MaddowBlog
"Last fall, voters statewide split their ballots essentially 50-50 between Republican and Democratic state House candidates. Yet Republicans won 57 percent of the House seats, claiming 63 seats to the Democrats’ 47."

www.apnews.com/750ee27a5de0499b8adf219e381ad805

And

Maddow Blog
Maddow Blog
@MaddowBlog
"Add up the votes in all 100 House districts, and Democrats beat Republicans by a 10-point margin, 54 percent to 44 percent."

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/big-vote-totals-dont-convert-to-wins-for-house-democrats/2017/11/15/ce7726aa-c9ea-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html

But also

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Keep an eye on this: "Virginia’s Board of Elections voted unanimously Monday to delay certification of two House races, amid new claims that dozens of voters got the wrong ballot."

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/virginia-politics/va-holds-off-certifying-tight-house-race-amid-new-claims-of-ballot-mix-ups/2017/11/20/780bf2a6-ce12-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:19

Alex Isenstadt
@politicoalex
NEW: Trump spent days venting about Moore's accusers + was skeptical of their accounts -leading to remarks today

Trump privately doubted Moore's female accusers

The president saw parallels between the Alabama candidate's situation and his own after the 'Access Hollywood' video surfaced.

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/trump-roy-moore-accusers-doubt-257454

Also

Jared Yates Sexton
@JYSexton
Just so everyone knows, Roy Moore has retweeted Trump's comments that serve as an endorsement.

Also

Eric Bradner
@ericbradner
President Trump didn’t only encourage Alabama voters to support Roy Moore.

He left open the possibility of campaigning with Moore.

“I’ll be letting you know next week,” Trump said. #ALSen

Also

Jared Yates Sexton
@JYSexton
Roy Moore mentions Alabama "always stands up for its rights," including the "Civil War conflict."

And finally, thoughts from Jim Grin

James Comey
@Comey
“The essence of immorality is the tendency to make an exception of myself.” Jane Addams (1860-1935)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 07:23

Robert Maguire
@RobertMaguire_
My latest in @McClatchyDC: The group providing Republicans ground support in the fight over Garland and Gorsuch got an eight-figure contribution from another secretive group with ties to a mysterious Trump inauguration donor

Web of secret money hides one mega-donor funding conservative court

amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/crime/article185832013.html

lionheart · 22/11/2017 07:48

Yes, it may make a difference to policy but not to the outcome of this Presidency. Smile

That Sneiderman report is shocking. It certainly raises questions about public consulation.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 08:20

The source of that is from the vanity fair article you linked to lion Grin

Yes I see what you mean about impacting policy and not the presidency, except it may in fact play a part to help them “get the president”. Although I’m feeling less confident about the ability of the law and due process holding up to trump’s assaults these days.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/11/2017 08:24

I hope we haven’t reached a point where this isn’t possible any more

The zephyrs of change. Trump continued
badbadhusky · 22/11/2017 08:34

I am LOVING Comey’s tweets. Grin It’s quite a clever tactic: he doesn’t directly criticise per se, he just has a twitter feed for posting inspirational quotes about moral rectitude and leadership. Wink

badbadhusky · 22/11/2017 08:35

Comey and Sally Yates are currently on my fantasy dinner party list.