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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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PerkingFaintly · 21/11/2017 18:21

Google to 'derank' Russia Today and Sputnik
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42065644

Important and I should probably read, but I'm otherwise engaged just now! Grin

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cozietoesie · 21/11/2017 18:28

From the piece.

“Speaking at the Halifax International Security Forum, Mr Schmidt said: "We're well aware of this one, and we're working on detecting this kind of scenario you're describing and deranking those kinds of sites."

‘we’re working on’..........

PerkingFaintly · 21/11/2017 20:32

Haha, I've just heard from the Bulawayo folks! They're a bit busy, and it's a bit noisy.Grin

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cozietoesie · 21/11/2017 20:36

I didn’t realise you had Zimbabwean connections, Perking. Smile

lionheart · 21/11/2017 20:42

Let's hope.

johnpavlovitz.com/2017/10/26/no-not-crazy/

PerkingFaintly · 21/11/2017 21:02

Yeah, often too painful to say much, cozie

Not tonight!Grin ^

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:16

Am thrilled for you perking! Let's hope it doesn't take 40 years to impeach this one

Kyle Griffin‏
@kylegriffin1

Trump, commenting on Roy Moore sexual assault allegations: “You don't need someone who's soft on crime like [Doug] Jones.”

twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/933074455655604225

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:17

CSPAN‏
@cspan

President Trump: "Roy Moore denies it. That's all I can say. He denies it. And by the way, he totally denies it."

twitter.com/cspan/status/933074223895113729

Lweji · 21/11/2017 21:19

Trump, commenting on Roy Moore sexual assault allegations: “You don't need someone who's soft on crime like [Doug] Jones.”

Much better to have a criminal. Sigh.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:20

Washington Post‏Verified account
@washingtonpost

Rep. John Conyers confirms settlement with staffer who accused him of sexual harassment, but he denies wrongdoing

t.co/JgDHuTg04V

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:22

Former Blackwater chief to testify to House panel in Russia inquiry

Erik Prince is reported to have tried setting up secret communications between Trump and Putin.

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/erik-prince-blackwater-testify-russia-probe-255111

Erik Prince, former head of security contractor Blackwater and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has been scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee next week in its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Prince has come under scrutiny since The Washington Post reported in April that he tried to set up a secret back channel between Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin of Russia just days before Trump’s inauguration.

Prince’s spokesman told The Post at the time: “Erik had no role on the transition team. This is a complete fabrication. The meeting had nothing to do with President Trump. Why is the so-called under-resourced intelligence community messing around with surveillance of American citizens when they should be hunting terrorists?”

Prince’s interview, as posted by the committee, is described as “open in a closed space.” That means that although his testimony will be taken privately, the committee intends to post a transcript of the proceedings afterward. They took a similar approach to the testimony provided earlier this month by Carter Page, a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser.

Page’s testimony provided insights into the committee’s lines of questioning about the campaign’s contacts with Russia and about Page's discussions with Trump campaign officials. The testimony has reverberated in the weeks since it became public.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:25

Evan McMurry‏
@evanmcmurry

JUST IN: Remains of U.S. Army Sgt. La David Johnson found on November 12 at site in Niger where his body was recovered, U.S. official confirms to @ABC News; his family has been notified.

[I can't find the abc link but here's one from CNN]

edition.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/niger-ambush-sgt-la-david-johnson-remains/index.html

lionheart · 21/11/2017 21:26

My goodness, I got to the reference to De Vos and the red mist descended. Shock

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:26

This, I think, is in reference to the anti LGBTQ+ Republican in office who was found to be conducting sexual relations with a man (yesterday? day before? time has lost all meaning) and then resigned

Brohibition Now‏
@OhNoSheTwitnt

Pretty fucked up that if Roy Moore had been accused of consensual sexual contact with a grown man not a single republican would be defending him but child molestation is fine as long as the children are girls.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:31

CNN‏
@CNN

Kellyanne Conway suggested the White House remains open to Roy Moore's embattled senate candidacy, saying "we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through" cnn.it/2hF5P5f

Also

Don't believe Roy Moore's accusers? Then listen to Moore

www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/you_dont_have_to_believe_the_w.html

Specifically Moore's account of how he met his now-wife, Kayla Moore.

First, read his book. In it, Moore describes how he met his wife at a Christmas party hosted by friends. He would have been 37. She was 23.

"Many years before, I had attended a dance recital at Gadsden State Junior College," Moore wrote. "I remembered one of the special dances performed by a young woman whose first and last names began with the letter 'K.' It was something I had never forgotten. Could that young woman have been Kayla Kisor?"

Moore later determined that it was.

"Long afterward, I would learn that Kayla had, in fact, performed a special dance routine at Gadsden State years before," he wrote.

Take a second to think about what's being said here. Moore first took notice of Kayla at a dance recital?

Perhaps you're wondering what "many years" means, and I wondered that too. Luckily, Moore again has cleared that up for us.

In an interview Moore gave earlier this year, he gave a similar account, but for one detail.

"It was, oh gosh, eight years later, or something, I met her," Moore said. "And when she told me her name, I remembered 'K. K.,' and I said, 'Haven't I met you before?'"

It's a simple matter of subtraction. When Roy Moore first took notice of Kayla she would have been as young as 15.

There's a little fuzziness, to be sure, in the timeline. There's the "or something" Moore fudges with in the interview. Eight years before could have been slightly too early to put Moore in Gadsden, he started work as an deputy district attorney there in 1977.

So maybe she was 15, or maybe she was 16. But still, here is a grown man at about 30 years old attending a girls' dance recital, and doing what exactly?

This would have been 1976 or 1977. (My best guess is the latter.)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:34

This is really not good

Garance Franke-Ruta‏
@thegarance

Trump wants to appoint the author of "Redistricting and Representation: Why Competitive Elections Are Bad for America" to the top Census job, just in time for the count that determines how many representatives states get.

Leading Trump Census pick causes alarm
The 2020 count might be put in the hands of an inexperienced professor who wrote that 'Competitive Elections are Bad for America.'

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/trump-census-pick-causes-alarm-252571

Sarah Kendzior‏
@sarahkendzior
Yeah, about 2018 -- those elections are unlikely to be free and fair. Fighting for voting rights should be a top priority:

thecorrespondent.com/7595/voter-id-laws-hackers-gerrymandering-just-how-much-can-a-democracy-take/2148246638615-79620214

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:36

Note to Robert Mueller: Hope Hicks Was Part of the Cover-Up

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/note-to-robert-mueller-hope-hicks-was-part-of-the-cover-up/#

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:41

ABC News
@ABC
Assad thanked Putin for "the efforts that Russia made to save our country," according to a Kremlin statement.

abcnews.go.com/International/syrian-president-bashar-assad-meets-russias-putin-sochi/story?id=51292704&cid=social_twitter_abcn

The Associated Press‏
@AP
RAW VIDEO: Assad and Putin meet in Sochi.

Lucian Kim‏
@Lucian_Kim

Here is the Kremlin's readout (in English) of Assad's visit to Putin. It took place yesterday, but the world only found out today. en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56135

Michael McFaul‏
@McFaul

More Michael McFaul Retweeted Lucian Kim
Allies. Please remember, Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens of his own country & displaced millions more.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:43

Bryan Smith‏
@BpsmithUk

Russia covers up Nuclear accident - after SPECIFICALLY denying there was any radioactivity detected between 25 Oct & 7 Nov, now Russia confirms Ru-106 radioactivity 986 times the norm between 25 Oct & 1 Nov... more #RussiaLies, it seems

Russian nuclear facility denies it is source of high radioactivity levels

Greenpeace calls for investigation after levels of ruthenium-106 in atmosphere near Urals site found to be 986 times norm

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/21/russia-radioactivity-986-times-norm-nuclear-accident-claim?CMP=twt_gu

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:47

Trump administration to end provisional residency protection for 60,000 Haitians

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-end-provisional-residency-protection-for-50000-haitians/2017/11/20/fa3fdd86-ce4a-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_haitians-750pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.71cae7159e27

Dan Rather‏
@DanRather

#Haiti is the poorest country in Western Hemisphere - devastated by disease and an earthquake that killed 230k people. Now we tell 60k Haitians to "GET OUT"?
We're better than this. And I think most Americans know it.

Omar Vaid‏
@omarvaid

If you’re wondering who in WH is calling for the deportation of 60,000 honest Haitian refugees:

Omar Vaid‏
@omarvaid
Breaking: NYT reports WH, led by Stephen Miller buried contradictory evidence that refugees contributed +$83B over a decade. #FireMiller

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 21:53

Mike Farb is being targetted

Dennis S Brotman‏
@DenbrotS
Any Menschie is dangerous. It’s more than a social issue. It’s disinformation and counterintelligence.

[for context, Louise Mensch has been putting together block lists to which she adds anyone she thinks is a Russian spy spreading deza and then encourages her followers to suscribe to this list so they too block people en masse. Thread on that here: twitter.com/nadinevdVelde/status/932696176020766720 ]

MikeFarb‏
@mikefarb1
They doxed me and my son. The next day my eBay account and emails were hacked. A few days later my Amazon account was hacked and orders placed on my credit card. Then my Twitter account was continually getting password reset requests. My web site was repeatedly taken down.

Then someone drove by my house on the wrong side of the street taking pictures of my house. I had to move away from home to keep my family safe. They have caused me and my family great pain. They are not on our side.

[I'm not sure how he seems to know who was responsible but I'm sure it's on a thread somewhere]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:04

He’s a Member of Congress. The Kremlin Likes Him so Much It Gave Him a Code Name

www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/politics/dana-rohrabacher-putin-trump-kremlin-under-fire.html

WASHINGTON — For two decades, Representative Dana Rohrabacher has been of value to the Kremlin, so valuable in recent years that the F.B.I. warned him in 2012 that Russia regarded him as an intelligence source worthy of a Kremlin code name.

The following year, the California Republican became even more valuable, assuming the chairmanship of the Foreign Affairs subcommittee that oversees Russia policy. He sailed to re-election again and again, even as he developed ties to Vladimir V. Putin’s Russia.

Then came President Trump.

As revelations of Russia’s campaign to influence American politics consume Washington, Mr. Rohrabacher, 70, who had no known role in the Trump election campaign, has come under political and investigative scrutiny. The F.B.I. and the Senate Intelligence Committee are each seeking to interview him about an August meeting with Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, Mr. Rohrabacher said. The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, is said to be interested in a meeting he had last year with Michael T. Flynn, Mr. Trump’s short-lived national security adviser.

cozietoesie · 21/11/2017 22:14

Pain

What are you doing here? Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:14

Kyle Griffin‏
@kylegriffin1

Bloomberg: Hackers stole the personal data of 57,000,000 customers and drivers from Uber, a massive breach that the company concealed for more than a year.

The company paid hackers $100,000 to delete the data and keep the breach quiet.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/uber-concealed-cyberattack-that-exposed-57-million-people-s-data

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/11/2017 22:27
Grin

Quinnipiac Poll‏
@QuinnipiacPoll

Word Cloud - What is the first word that comes to mind when you think of Donald Trump?

poll.qu.edu/search-releases/search-results/release-detail?What=&strArea=6;0;&strTime=28&ReleaseID=2502#Question003

The zephyrs of change. Trump continued