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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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lionheart · 16/11/2017 21:59

He will be needed, especially if AF falls by the wayside.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/11/2017 22:17

It is beyond a parody

Homeland Security's head of community outreach once said blacks turned cities to 'slums' with 'laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity'

edition.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/kfile-jamie-johnson-dhs/index.html

badbadhusky · 16/11/2017 22:24

Homeland Security's head of community outreach once said blacks turned cities to 'slums' with 'laziness, drug use and sexual promiscuity'

I thought that was the Trump clan’s ‘special power’.

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 22:42

Oh Dear. Smile

Pentagon retweets post

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 22:48

Well they ain’t going to lose money! Grin

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 22:49

Interesting.

Joe Biden in mock poll

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/11/2017 23:19

I don’t know if today is different to any day that’s gone before but it feels a bit overwhelming at how much is being changed for the worse, with barely a murmur of dissent.

It’s all feeling futile and even if trump et al are extricated, the aftermath will be still need to be dealt with Sad

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 23:23

Have your ten minutes of bad despair, Pain. It’s necessary every so often. Then pick up and carry on. Above all persist.

(I recommend a couple of Across’s. Wink)

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 23:28

PS - and have a read of this piece from the Independent. As we said many threads ago, it’s 2018. Grin

How to do it.

cozietoesie · 16/11/2017 23:36

PPS- you think that Siskind doesn’t become dispirited, occasionally? Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:24

Thanks cozie. I think yesterday was compounded by watching a friend shake off any concerns about her abusive fiancé and the sinking realisation that there’s nothing that I can do. But you’re right, small acts of resistance and persistence might effect a change (although in her case I obviously respect her right to make choices for herself as a grown woman, hard as it is to watch).

There’s been some baby cannon booms overnight

Does cooperating witness have info on Flynn tie to Turkey?

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/does-cooperating-witness-have-info-flynn-tie-turkey-n821341

A gold trader who is close to Turkish President Recep Erdogan is now cooperating with federal prosecutors in a money-laundering case, according to two sources with knowledge of the matter, and legal experts say prosecutors may be seeking information about any ties between the Turkish government and former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn.

Reza Zarrab, a dual Turkish-Iranian national, faces charges in federal court in Manhattan for skirting sanctions on Iran by allegedly moving hundreds of millions of dollars for the Iranian government and Iranian firms via offshore entities and bank accounts.

But Zarrab is now out of jail and speaking to prosecutors — a move President Erdogan had been desperately hoping to avoid.

Erdogan asked former Vice President Joe Biden in 2016 to drop the case and fire U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, whose district was overseeing the case. Biden refused, according to a third source with knowledge of the case.

President Donald Trump fired Bharara in March. Multiple law enforcement officials say there is no indication at this time that the firing is tied to this case.

Erdogan has continued to ask the Trump administration to drop the case, multiple officials say.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating whether Erdogan offered Flynn upwards of $15 million during the presidential transition in December to use his upcoming position as national security advisor to return his top political rival from the U.S. to Turkey and to see that Zarab's case was dropped, NBC has reported.

[there’s more to this piece and it’s worth a read]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:27

And a wannabe boom. You are advised to keep a firm grip on your eyeballs so you don’t lose them when you roll your eyes hard at this

Sean Hannity
@seanhannity
Boom 💥!!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Al Frankenstien picture is really bad, speaks a thousand words. Where do his hands go in pictures 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 while she sleeps? .....

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:32

Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus
NEWS: Mueller's team in mid-October issued its first subpoena directly to the Trump campaign requesting Russia-related docs from more than a dozen top officials.

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/special-counsel-mueller-issued-subpoena-for-russia-related-documents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team in mid-October issued a subpoena to President Donald Trump’s campaign requesting Russia-related documents from more than a dozen top officials, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The subpoena, which requested documents and emails from the listed campaign officials that reference a set of Russia-related keywords, marked Mr. Mueller’s first official order for information from the campaign, according to the person. The subpoena didn’t compel any officials to testify before Mr. Mueller’s grand jury, the person said.

The subpoena caught the campaign by surprise, the person said. The campaign had previously been voluntarily complying with the special counsel’s requests for information, and had been sharing with Mr. Mueller’s team the documents it provided to congressional committees as part of their probes of Russian interference into the 2016 presidential election.

The Trump campaign is providing documents in response to the subpoena on an “ongoing” basis, the person said.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:35

Kushner still waiting on permanent security clearance

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/16/jared-kushner-security-clearance-246531

Susan Hennessey
@Susan_Hennessey
The White House claim that it is "completely normal" for it to take over 10 months to clear an extremely senior WH official is insane.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:39

Rick Smith
@RickSmithShow
There has never been a greater redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top. Never.
@jeremyslevin @amprog

Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
It’s in the $Trillions. That’s with a T

Also

The Hill
@thehill
Senate GOP quietly adds tax breaks for private jets to tax bill: hill.cm/IzxTfsg

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 06:51

MSNBC
@MSNBC
Explosive Report: Trump is using the Department of Justice for personal lawsuits and taxpayers are footing the bill: on.msnbc.com/2jxZgFE

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 07:07

Noah Shachtman
Noah Shachtman
@NoahShachtman
EXCLUSIVE: The Freedom of the Press Foundation routed half a million dollars to @wikileaks. But Assange’s embrace of Trump split the group’s board, and now it’s on the verge of cutting WikiLeaks off.

amp.thedailybeast.com/free-press-group-set-to-cut-off-wikileaks

Roussette · 17/11/2017 07:19

Brian Krassenstein 🐬‏
@krassenstein
14m14 minutes ago
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BREAKING: More than a dozen top Trump campaign officials subpoenaed in Mueller probe!!

This appears to be verified with a couple of news reports from different sources, fingers crossed this is the start of the end...

Lweji · 17/11/2017 07:48

Green Day have released their follow up to American Idiot today. Enjoy!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/11/2017 08:09

I most certainly did Grin

Natsku · 17/11/2017 09:00

Just popping in to keep this thread in my active threads

PerkingFaintly · 17/11/2017 09:26

Natsku, still thinking of you and your family.Thanks

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Natsku · 17/11/2017 09:43

Cheers Perking a week and a half to go, we're asking people to write to their MPs again to sign the letter (100 MPs signed that letter about a year ago but that wasn't enough) that asks for him not to be extradited and instead tried in the UK.

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