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To alert you to the fact that Topshop just changed its policy to let men into the women's changing rooms

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YouStoleTheBowlFromTheRoom · 07/11/2017 18:16

Been made aware of this today: a 'gender fluid' man having a pop at Topshop because he wasn't allowed to use the women's changing rooms at their Manchester store:

twitter.com/travisalabanza/status/927198660089339904

Topshop have now been quoted as apologising to him, and saying they've changed their policy to get rid of sex-segregated changing rooms altogether.

Another shop to strike off the list. Am I the only one worried this is past the point of no return? Angry

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AfterSchoolWorry · 07/11/2017 18:17

Fucking hell. 😠

Lelloteddy · 07/11/2017 18:20

For real? That’s Topshop scored off my list of places to shop with teenage daughters. FFS.

Furgggggg12 · 07/11/2017 18:22

Fucking hell that's annoying. YANBU.

DJBaggySmalls · 07/11/2017 18:23

Oh ffs, that contravenes the Equality Act. Muslim and Sikh girls need single sex changing rooms, they are being discriminated against on the grounds of their religion. And women are entitled to single sex changing rooms on the grounds of sex.

toolonglurking · 07/11/2017 18:23

I'm fine with it.

Julie8008 · 07/11/2017 18:23

But you change in individual cubicles, alone, what difference does it make?

Possumfish · 07/11/2017 18:24

Good. It's about time. Most changing rooms are monitored anyway. And women are just as big a pervs as men.

Crumbs1 · 07/11/2017 18:24

But Topshop is full of little girls trying on clothes behind a flimsy curtain.
Fine to have same sex facilities if they are single, hard walled, proper door cubicles that provide ceiling to floor covering but they aren’t and I’m sure they won’t be funding new ones.

bigredboat · 07/11/2017 18:24

Surely the changing rooms are full of cubicles, not one big room? Plenty of shops have this set up, I don't see the issue.

YouStoleTheBowlFromTheRoom · 07/11/2017 18:24

Heavily biased article from Buzzfeed here, but it does include a quote - hope the link works: www.buzzfeed.com/laurasilver/topshop-refused-to-let-a-trans-person-into-an-all-gender

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WonderLime · 07/11/2017 18:25

I would say that it is problematic if it’s the changing rooms with the curtains, but less of an issue if it’s a lockable door.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 07/11/2017 18:25

Hope they make the changing cubicles more private then. Poor teenage girls.

MessyBun247 · 07/11/2017 18:26

Hope that was an attempt at humour possumfish

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 07/11/2017 18:27

Gendered changing rooms , effect and put queer and trans shoppers at risk from harassment from other shoppers. It's dated and dangerous

So you're answer to this very very small percentage of people being at risk from harassment is to get rid of gendered changing rooms and therefore put 50% of the population at risk of harassment? It's typical all about me me me bullshit.

RavingRoo · 07/11/2017 18:27

The Topshops locally have lockable doors, so it doesn’t matter. All changing rooms should have solid lockable doors.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 07/11/2017 18:28

But they don’t. So....... what’s your answer now?

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 07/11/2017 18:29

Sane enough comments on that BuzzFeed article for a change.

Glowerglass · 07/11/2017 18:30

Oh, well, No more Topshop for me then.

I'm suprised the gender fluid man can find anything to fit him in the ladies section. Generally comes up small in my experience.

YouStoleTheBowlFromTheRoom · 07/11/2017 18:31

I can't speak for other women and girls, but I've had plenty of experiences of being made uncomfortable by men hanging around the women's changing rooms in clothes shops, lurking around waiting for their wives and partners, and casting a shifty eye/making pervy comments.

Women need women-only space for a reason, particularly when we're getting undressed. That's my take on it, and the only reason Topshop have changed their policy is because of men complaining they can't access the women's facilities.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Bunnychopz · 07/11/2017 18:31

Fewer and fewer safe female only spaces Sad

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 07/11/2017 18:31

Teenage girls are a much, much larger demographic than trans women.
Tell your daughters to boycott Topshop, boycott them yourself, and - crucially - tweet them to tell them why.

scrabble1 · 07/11/2017 18:32

This is a huge safeguarding issue

MoistCantaloupe · 07/11/2017 18:32

I love the fact he says he is 'unsafe' in the men's changing room. He is allowed to assume all men are unsafe, but women and girls are not allowed to feel unsafe if biological men/transwomen are in their space.

Sounds about right.

MargeryFenworthy · 07/11/2017 18:33

Shocking. And 'they' is the most utterly ridiculous term.

stitchglitched · 07/11/2017 18:34

Saw this on twitter earlier. Alot of shocked parents saying their teenage daughters won't be shopping there again. I hope it massively affects their sales, sick of 50% of the population being thrown under the bus for a small minority of entitled men.