To alert you to the fact that Topshop just changed its policy to let men into the women's changing rooms

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Been made aware of this today: a 'gender fluid' man having a pop at Topshop because he wasn't allowed to use the women's changing rooms at their Manchester store:

twitter.com/travisalabanza/status/927198660089339904

Topshop have now been quoted as apologising to him, and saying they've changed their policy to get rid of sex-segregated changing rooms altogether.

Another shop to strike off the list. Am I the only one worried this is past the point of no return?

Oh right moist that is different.

So if loads of woman say they they don't feel safe with men in there topshop will change their policy back? Doubts that

The issue I have, sailorcherries (can't speak for anyone else) is that women-only spaces are being redesignated 1) on the insistence of men 2) against the wishes of many women, who feel like they're not being listened to, and 3) without any wider discussion/debate.

The changing rooms this guy tried to access were for women. He was told that, and directed to the men's room. He kicked up a fuss, and now Topshop are declaring all their changing rooms are unisex. Men are eroding women's boundaries - for me, that's a major problem.

What a nasty selfish man. I think I'm becoming a feminist.
I won't be shopping in topshop again that's for sure as even if I wasnt disgusted by them I can't use the changing rooms now because of my religion. And fwiw my local one has curtains on the cubicles and no topman section. I wonder if other shops will do this too.

sailorcherries

Of course there is a problem with privacy given the use of cameras and recording devices or being there alone without a member of staff. The curtains are completely inadequate as we all know, most stores do not have lockable doors as you would see in a family area of a leisure centre. You can't compare the two.

It will stop women from using them because no one wants to be looked at through the crack of the curtain, or filmed or talk very much as it is embarrassing.

Changing this policy has completely side lined the wishes of the majority of women and the safety of younger girls.

every single swimming pool around here is a communal changing village with cubicles and lockable doors. Never once have I felt threatened.

As a 13 year old my best friend and I had at least one photo taken of us over the top of the cubicle whilst we changed in a changing village.

@youarenotkiddingme way things are going, I doubt it. That would be transphobic.

I was in Cos the other day and the changing rooms were unisex and there was a male and female attendant on duty. The cubicles were really spacious and completely self-contained with solid floor to ceiling lockable doors - it felt fine. But in Debenhams the changing rooms are allocated to the sex of the floor they serve ie. Men and women. They only had curtains and I think it would be something else if a gender fluid man walked in amongst the female pensioners and felt entitled to be there especially if you were trying on bras and the like.

I want another baby, we were TTC but I'm stopping it because I know I will need a hospital delivery due to my health condition. I was assaulted on a hospital ward by a male visitor staying over night with his partner. I now feel unsafe and unable to give birth and further my family because of biological men. I am now unable to go shopping and have privacy there because biological men are scared that other biological men will be violent to them and they now want space away from biological men? OH OKAY THEN.

Where do we get space? Where?

And of course, this is all coinciding with the law changing so men can self-identify female now, without treatment, drugs, surgery etc.
So anyone who self identifies will be allowed in any female space, not just the 'gender neutral' spaces.

batteredbreaded

Who cares that your privacy was invaded or you were compromised by those photos. Who cares about your right to get changed and go swimming as any normal person would do?

Just as long as men can come into the changing rooms and do as they please all is well with the world. This in 2017. Men had more respect for women 30 years ago and wouldn't dream of simply changing this without lengthy and detailed analysis, and most of their customers being on board with the idea.

Good. It's about time. Most changing rooms are monitored anyway. And women are just as big a pervs as men.

BOLLOCKS.

12 times as many women as men are raped each year.

There are ONE HUNDRED times more men in prison for sexual offences than men.

Why do all the people on this side of the debate deny reality?

Sorry 100x more men than women.

Normally an adult male with a penis wanting to use the women's changing room frequented by teenage girls would be viewed as a perv. Now all that adult male has to do is say 'trans' and with that magic word anyone who objects is a bigot. So sick of this shit.

Same fitting rooms in our Matalan for men and women.

I agree bunnychops

Have tweeted topshop.

I do understand the issue of womens only spaces being taken away, however many people seem more annoyed about it becoming an all-gendered changing room than the actual removal of a safe place.

I cannot get annoyed an all-gendered changing room.

battered I have also witnessed people taking pictures of others, in an all female school toilet.

Be annoyed at the removal of spaces but do not use it as justification to insinuate that all/most men are sexual predators and that this is a free for all buffet.

Perhaps as a compromise to having mixed changing facilities you have it monitored at all times, giving that security to those that feel otherwise.

@JemimaLovesHamble Yeah. /r/creepshots and /r/jailbait may be gone but its many successors remain. This is just a reality.

I have no issue with gender neutral individual small rooms, but shared spaces I do.

I think civil suits may be more effective than boycotts, but appreciate nobody wants their teen DD to be the test case!

I've never come across a shop that has segregated fitting rooms before tbh anyway..H&M has always been unisex for example. It's a bit paranoid to be scared of something like this tbh..

walnutwhip88

Who are you to say that we shouldn't feel threatened and worried for our children in unisex changing rooms? What planet do you live on, most stores have segregated fitting rooms the last time I checked. Particularly those with lingerie and nightwear.

You've never come across male and female changing rooms?

Do you live in the UK?

littlebird7 It is a bit daft tbh, like I say I used to work in H&M they've always been unisex and we never encountered any problems. Besides if they're children you should be accompanying them to the changing room anyway

Just for once I actually envy the women in the middle east (and admittedly it is a rare moment)

Their privacy is, without question, sacred. They do not have to deal with this hideous pressure to do everything unisex. Or to feel their dignity and self respect is always undermined in some way or another. It was bliss being in the spas and salons there. You could truly relax and feel at ease....now we can't even get changed without men being there.

I feel truly suffocated.

BriechonCheese I'm so sorry you went through that

walnut

She is 12 years old of course I do NOT go with her to the changing room because she expects privacy when she is changing (from me as well)

You sound like a man with no understanding and have clearly have been to one store in your whole life, so not exactly educated on the issue.

littlebird7 you clearly have ingrained issues most women on the street won't give a toss about unisex changing rooms