To be shocked at the sheer amount of hatred and ignorance about transpeople on mumsnet

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Specifically transwomen, according to the majority of mumsnet, all transwomen want to rape biological women, “steal their womanhood” and all sorts of other ridiculous, offensive statements without any factual backing.

So why is Mumsnet so intolerant and ignorant towards transgender people?

Shirelles - are you aware that you are coming across as very aggressive and inflammatory? In stark contrast to most of the rest of the thread you are also making personal derogatory comments to other posters. You are not a good advert for your side of the argument in my opinion, and are actually proving the other side's point.

It's not clear what "side" Shirelle is on, or what she thinks other posters are supporting or objecting to...

What in the world are you assuming I want public funding for?

I think she's just against women discussing the impact of transgender activists agendas/policies on women. "Nodebate?

Shirelle are you thinking that this thread is arguing in favour of the GRB bill?

Hmm

All you can offer is hatred, malice and contempt and that is what will come back to you.

And

I don't want to read 25 pages on a non - issue.

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously?

You're telling us what we "have to offer" but by your own admission you haven't actually read our words.

Is that the best you can do? Seriously?!

Wow so you are an angry person. You are being horrible on a thread you won’t even read? Wtf? Are you on something because you seem a bit off and what do you mean by funding and sexually neurotic? If you haven’t a point to put across then kindly fuck off.

Shirelles et al, I am a pretty ordinary, not very political woman who has become very concerned about this juggernaut which, if the law is changed, will erase women's rights and safety. I am amazed there are people who do not understand that. I dont care what people wear, call themselves etc but they cannot be allowed to just invite themselves into places meant for women, take funding meant for women, win awards meant for women and allow predatory deviants to pretend to be trans to do all those things too. No hatred here but they need their own facilities etc unless totally transitioned ie no penis etc.

I'm starting to think Shirelle has only read the OP and is responding mostly to that one post, so is assuming that the thread is talking in defense of it.

Neurotic? Hysterical?

Unsurprising use of misogynist language here. Why would this sort of behaviour give rise to any concern from women?

I don't know which side Shirelle is ranting at

But there’s plenty of hatred aimed at women from men who think that their desire to wear a wig and a frock,and pretend to need a sit down wee, trumps the rights of women to have safe spaces

That's the kind of comment that some people could say is a massive stereotype about transpeople.

that is not how transwoman is defined. Nor do I consider cutting off a body part to be a 'step to become a woman'. And while we're on that subject, nor do I consider wearing a dress, wearing lipstick, wearing high heels, or showing interest in society's traditional ideas of female gender roles to be 'steps to become a woman' either

And yet another stereotype about transwomen...

It's not transphobia. Just repeated stereotypes.

Quite, Haidee.

What is gender other than stereotypes

So transwomen just want to 'wear frocks, high heels, put on a wig and act in a 'feminine way''?

25 pages of hysterical condescending bigotry.

No. It isn't.

Or is that just a masive stereotype about a group of people based on perceptions?

So saga what is your definition of a transwoman?

Or is that just a masive stereotype about a group of people based on perceptions?

Not perceptions, but people's own descriptions of what it means to be trans. Every trans person I have ever heard or read about has described it using every stereotype in the book. Drawn to the toys of the opposite sex as a child (even though there is no such thing as a toy for the opposite sex), preferred the clothes of the opposite sex etc. It's stereotypes through and through.

what is your definition of a transwoman

Very much on the person who goes through the 2 year process, transitions, takes HRT and probably surgery (although there are people who are wary of surgery)

Not someone who has 'gender' issues.

It's stereotypes through and through

So transwomen just want to wear a 'high heels, a wig and a frock' because society says men can't do that?

Every trans person I have ever heard or read about has described it using every stereotype in the book

Maybe rather than reading about trans people, you could try meeting some in real life? Just a thought.

Maybe rather than reading about trans people, you could try meeting some in real life? Just a thought.

Where?

Where

In real life? Rather than relying on what you read about groups of people on the internet.