To think that people that drive diesel cars know that they're killing children

[dieselKiller]

Diesel cars are destroying our towns and villages. The health effects on kids are particularly bad. People must know this by now. So AIBU to think that people who drive diesel cars know that they're killing kids (and everyone really)?

It's like smoking: it's not possible to smoke in public without affecting others' health. This seems to have been accepted by most people. What makes diesel different?

There's no blame of diesel car owners coming from me

Haha. Except you've called us all knowing child -killers.

There would have been much better ways to frame your point than this thread

Cutesbabasmummy Do I blame the sun for giving me sunburn? Do I blame my skin for getting sunburnt?

Meh. I need my big dirty diesel engined 4x4 to pull my humungous horse trailer. If there's a "clean" 4x4 out there that has a braked towing weight of 3.5T and is as affordable, please let me know.

Rural living isn’t the problem Overpopulation is

Birthrates stabilise and begin falling at a certain point of education and development. Our world's population now is perhaps troubling but will level off and begin decline.

More troubling is that western lifestyles are terribly environmentally unsound.

um. Did someone else type your original question then? "Am I being unreasonable to think that people that drive diesel cars know that they're killing children".

In what way is that NOT blaming the driver?

Where do you live, makeourfuture?

Diesel killer I don't know, do you? I use sunblock.

“ Do I blame the sun for giving me sunburn? Do I blame my skin for getting sunburnt?”

Yeah because that’s exactly the same 😂😂😂😂

I forgot the sun was sentient and making a decision when lashing out the old UV rays

It’s idiotic and disingenuous to try and claim the original question doesn’t attribute blame

To those people who feel "blamed" or "hated" or "shamed" by being forced to confront consequences of their (our) actions, I can only say that the emotions you feel are your own. I'm interested in having a direct and honest conversation about life. I'm not interested in blaming, shaming, and hating. We all cause harm in our lives. Surely it's better to face it and change our actions to reduce the harm than fret over the phrasing of a question because it makes us uncomfortable?

I'm not interested in blaming, shaming, and hating.

SCREEEEECH

What's that? Could it be the sound of... backtracking??

Thanks to everyone that has replied with personal stories of your diesel car purchase and use and your plans for the future. It's all helping to answer my question! I'd love to hear more of those.

Why? Still sounds an awful lot like research for something to me.

Quimby Is it clearer if I say that I no more blame the average diesel driver for driving a diesel car than I blame my skin for getting sunburn?

If you all want to look at the world adversariallly go ahead but your speculations about my world view are just way off the mark.

Scabbersley maybe the noise is the brakes on all our diesel cars....

If you all want to look at the world adversariallly this from a person calling us child killers - yeah sure we’re the ones being adversarial OP ha ha ha ha ha ha

👏 Well done I have enjoyed reading this thread. I will be taking driving lessons soon so I will think carefully about my first car purchase.

IsabelleSE19 I'm interested in ultimately effecting change: I don't want to breathe diesel fumes. I asked the question because I want to understand how people think about diesel, how people feel about their purchases, their driving habits. If you want to call that "research" that's OK, but I don't have any clearly defined goal beyond not wanting to breathe crappy air and being generally worried that people seem to think breathing crappy air is OK.

Still sounds an awful lot like research for something to me.
Doesn’t it just

Until they raise the tax on diesel cars, no one is going to care.

Where do you shop, OP?

Christ what a pompous are of a thread!

being generally worried that people seem to think breathing crappy air is OK

Of course people don’t think it is ok. What a ridiculous assertion.

cows are real methane producers better not have the milk either.

Cows are killing children!

wasonthelist It was a worry, not an assertion. But since this thread has had quite a number of people whose message is "nothing is going to change" and we do in fact have to breathe crappy air, it remains a worry. Feel free to point to replies in this thread that will lessen that worry. There have been some.