To think the Radfords must be getting money from somewhere other than that bakery?!

[MaryPoppinsPenguins]

They've just posted a picture of themselves at T Rex in Orlando. With 20 kids (some grandkids too I think?)

Surely there's no bakery on earth that lucrative that you can take 24 odd people to Disney World??

[MrLovebucket]

They still say that they only spend £250 per week on food. Their figures just don't add up at all

Maybe they literally eat all the pies.

[MrLovebucket]

It's also worth reminding everyone that threads on this subject are clearly being noted elsewhere and that individual posters are responsible for what they post

Daily Fail or Sue's blog?

[IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday]

“A lot of self employed persons also pay spouse/partner/child in 6th form etc 11K also as they act as secretarial/run the payroll/PAs etc.“

So you know a lot of people who Do this? Well if their spouse/partner/child isn’t actually isn’t doing any work, they are guilty of tax avoidance and will be prosecuted when they get a tax inspection.

Also if you haven’t got receipts for all expenses claimed, it will be assumed you’re making it up and you will be fined.

[OllyBJolly]

Self employed - everything will be written off on tax, pay self a minimal wage and scoop up the tax credits

This is such a myth! No way will an accountant, never mind HMRC, allow non business expenses through company accounts. You might get away with an odd lunch but 22 tickets to Orlando - nae chance!

If the individual isn't taxed, then the company is and it in no way compensates for the insecurity of self employment and lack of sick, holiday, maternity pay etc.

[HelloSquirrels]

I dont get the big "they claim child benefit" uproar. Yep. So doew everyone else. Theyre entitiled to it. Would you not claim something you were entitled to?

[drspouse]

Hello it's the fact that they say they don't claim benefits. Child benefit is, er, a benefit.

[HelloSquirrels]

I wouldn't consider it the same as like, housing benefit or tax credits. To me it is just something everyone gets.

But i didnt know they had said that. Maybe they have the same view as me.

I woildnt say i was on benefits because i get cb!

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

It’s the tax credits that’s will hugely bump up the money that’s coming in to keep their huge family

And no I haven’t always claimed because I can I have when I needed to

[kaytee87]

@HelloSquirrels not everyone does get it btw. If one parent earns more than £60k you pay extra tax to the amount of the child benefit you receive. I still claim for my son as it contributes towards my NI payments (I’m a sahm) but my husband pays it all back.

[Hulababy]

Unihorn- in peak weeks, which Halloween is? Flying direct? And doing all the parks? Universal too?

We are only a family of 3 and all in it's never any change from £5k even when going in February half term for a week and usually a lot lot more. And we shop around. Only time we've had it a bit cheaper was going in June not in school holidays.

[ssd]

I know this thread is about the Radfords but I think the real villains here are people like fence who are proud they or their families pay no tax.

I'm sure the Radfords have their financial affairs sorted as they know people will be desperate to dig up any dirt on them.

Yet tax avoiders at all levels go about their business and don't seem to mind using all public services whilst contributing zilch to them.

[WitchesHatRim]

To me it is just something everyone gets

Not everyone does get it however.

[PoppyPopcorn]

YABU for following them on social media to even see what they're posting - it's fuelling the fire.

I know of the family you're talking about and it seems entirely reasonable that if they're being filmed as part of their trip or doing photo shoots or whatever that their trip is being funded by the TV company or magazines. That's not uncommon. I also know a friend who's a journalist and her newspaper often has freebie press trips all over the place on the condition that the journo does a nice piece about the resort or the airline afterwards. So Disney/Universal may well have given free tickets in return for a bit of PR.

And yes, tax credits and CB for a dozen or more children is a considerable sum.

[AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads]

There are (legal) tax avoiders running the country, they don't give a shit about the Radfords or fence

[mydogisthebest]

So, according to a previous poster, the family have said they get tax credits. So why do we always get the "great family who don't get benefits" rammed down our throats?

Personally I am amazed there is a tv show about them because I don't see why anyone would be interested in them.

They are costing the UK a fortune and adding to the overpopulation and yet are rewarded with holidays to Disneyland!!! There are hardworking families on minimum wage who would love to take their normal size family to Disneyland but can't afford to and quite likely never will.

[sanddune11]

Another strange MN quirk. So many posts berating anyone with more than 2 kids "because over population" but the Radfords aren't criticised for having 20
I agree, it is a mumsnet quirk but not just about the Radfords, it's a mumsnet quirk to take the opposite view to anything the posters put up. If someone came on here and said they want a huge family, 10 kids or more they'd get roasted on here. Mumsnetters just love to argue

[splendide]

I do find it weird that people don't object more to an adult making a child pregnant.

[0nesie]

Is their bakery listed on Companies House? I wonder what the turnover is like? They must make a lot of profit to be able to afford so many kids if they are not claiming benefits!

[BabsGangoolies]

They may get £4k?? per month in benefits/Tax credits etc, but it must cost a fortune to heat their home, do all the laundry (think it's 5 loads per day), feed them all and general day to day expenses. I wonder what their monthly outgoings are?

Hell, I complain about looking after two.....

[ButchyRestingFace]

I do find it weird that people don't object more to an adult making a child pregnant

Yes, esp when there’s another thread running concurrently in which an OP has discovered her friend’s husband had had a longstanding relationship with a 13 yr old when he was 17. The advice she was getting is not to let her own kids stay over with them.

Yet, on this thread, posters are more interested in how the family manages its tax credits and where you can buy their pies.

[GlubGlubGlub]

@SSD couldn’t agree with you more!

I’m actually disgusted that there are people like Fence’s son never paying any tax.

The Radfords are claiming what they are entitled to. Who wouldn’t?

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

Mmm becuase the discussion has gone that way

There have been many threads about this family the parents relationship and her being a child herself when she first became a parent, the dynamics in the family and so on

[rwalker]

I'd say media money the bakery shocking looks like 1980 sandwich shop never been busy when I've been in and tesco's 10 doors down .Someone said about massive house think semi attached to it sold for about £280k