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Manafort Destiny? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 30/10/2017 13:07

Where will the charges against Manafort lead? Whose shredders are overheating today? And most importantly, when will the Tweetstorm-from-the-loo start?

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TheClaws · 02/11/2017 00:25

Some people might go shopping.

TheClaws · 02/11/2017 00:27

But whatever the right-wing numbskulls do, they’ll be no antifa there apparently as advertised (by the right-wingers themselves).

TheClaws · 02/11/2017 00:40

I did see an odd comment this morning on Breitbart that set me wondering - “Yes, and Friday, Pinky, we'll take over the world!” I’ve seen plenty of comments about taking up arms etc. before, but this sounded a little different. Then reading the Civil War speculation put it in context. I just hope they are simply unassociated, isolated cowards that couldn’t organise a kid’s birthday party.

cozietoesie · 02/11/2017 00:43

I hope that the ‘bait’ is resisted.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/11/2017 02:10

And then they'll congratulate themselves for having 'stopped the war'. Phfffft!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:01

It seems almost immaterial now with mueller’s investigations having such powerful reach but

Manu Raju
@mkraju
NEWS: Long-time Trump confidante SCHILLER heads to House Intel among batch of major witnesses. @jeremyherb and me:

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/01/politics/keith-schiller-house-russia-investigation/index.html

PainInTheEerie · 02/11/2017 03:11

Seems that mike farb’s findings about trump’s server connections to Russia checks out Shock

Hackers Compromised the Trump Organization 4 Years Ago—and the Company Never Noticed

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/hackers-compromised-the-trump-organization-4-years-ago-and-the-company-never-noticed/#

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:22

Linked source is in Russian so standard disclaimers apply (haven’t bothered including them but they’re on her twitter page)

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
RT's editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan testified before #Russia's Fed Council that RT spent $1,9 million dollars on Twitter ads since 2015.

2015: based on RT's statement that its advertising partnership with Twitter started in 2015. Simonyan verbally described it as "many years."

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
RT's editor-in-chief Simonyan testified before #Russia's Fed Council that RT spent $12k on its most expensive Twitter ad, supporting Bernie.

Re: $12k RT spent on Bernie ad, editor-in-chief Simonyan says it's no money, you could buy a purse with that. IDK where she buys her purses.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:26

Ben Collins
@oneunderscore__
New from us: Michael Flynn Followed Five Russian Troll Accounts, Pushed Their Messages in Days Before the Election

Michael Flynn Pushed Russia Propaganda Right Before Election

amp.thedailybeast.com/michael-flynn-followed-russian-troll-accounts-pushed-their-messages-in-days-before-election

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:32

So zuckerburg has time to go on msnbc tonight but not attend congressional hearings?

MSNBC
@MSNBC
.@AriMelber to Mark Zuckerberg: Whose side do you want to be on?
on.msnbc.com/2ymjKYH

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:40

A very good thread on how false narratives are created

Conspirador Norteño
@conspirator0
After the terror attack in New York today, I went looking to see what propaganda #AltWankers were pushing in the aftermath.

mobile.twitter.com/conspirator0/status/925560985225650177

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:44

Facebook quietly updated two key numbers about its user base

amp.businessinsider.com/facebook-raises-duplicate-fake-account-estimates-q3-earnings-2017-11

Facebook quietly increased its number of estimated duplicate accounts from 6% to 10%.
Estimated fake accounts were raised to 2-3% from 1%.
The updated estimates will affect Facebook's tool for advertisers.

Hidden within Facebook's blockbuster third-quarter earnings on Wednesday are two important numbers the company quietly updated.

While a relatively small percentage of Facebook's massive user base, the 10% figure means that there are now roughly 207 million duplicate accounts and as many as 60 million fake accounts on the network.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 03:49

Susan Glasser
Susan Glasser
@sbg1
'i don't know who in america believed that putin elected trump, but putin believed that'--former Putin adviser Gleb Pavlovsky #frontlinepbs

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 04:03

So despite making some principled decisions (appointing mueller) it’s increasingly looking like Rosenstein writing that letter recommending comey’s firing wasn’t an aberration but indicative of how he’s shit/compromised. This article
would be laughable were it not for the fact that Rosenstein is “in charge” of mueller

Top Justice official says Trump respects 'the rule of law'

www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/rosenstein-justice-trump-law-244443

TheClaws · 02/11/2017 04:09

And you should 1. respect the rule of law, 2. quit labelling - it’s damaging in so many ways, and 3. stop tweeting.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 9m9 minutes ago
More
NYC terrorist was happy as he asked to hang ISIS flag in his hospital room. He killed 8 people, badly injured 12. SHOULD GET DEATH PENALTY!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 04:11

Seth Abramson
Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
BREAKING (h/t DM): Greek media is telling a very different story about George Papdopoulos and Trump than we're reading here. Check it out.

mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925923595079045120

Worth a look, this is just one point raised

11/ So it appears that, two days before the election, Papadopoulos was brought back—and to talk Russia policy—to potential Trump voters.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 04:14

Scott Dworkin
@funder
BREAKING: Convicted Trump Advisor George Papadopolous met with the president of Greece while working on the campaign

Convicted Trump Campaign Advisor Met Presidents of Cyprus, Greece & UAE

thesternfacts.com/convicted-trump-campaign-advisor-met-presidents-of-cyprus-greece-uae-93a6d405266a

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 04:26

Blush I’ve just watched the Melbef clip and zuckerburg didn't go on the show. I completely misread the caption regrets posting in the wee hours of the morning

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 06:52

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
NYC terrorist was happy as he asked to hang ISIS flag in his hospital room. He killed 8 people, badly injured 12. SHOULD GET DEATH PENALTY!

Paul Dickinson
@prdickinson
The President has just placed his thumb on the scales of justice. This public comment will be used to show how the driver cannot get a fair trial. Either way the trial judge rules on issue, this interjects error and multiple appeals. Well done brainless one.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 06:59

Hit list exposes Russian hacking beyond US elections

www.apnews.com/3bca5267d4544508bb523fa0db462cb2

WASHINGTON (AP) — The hackers who upended the U.S. presidential election had ambitions well beyond Hillary Clinton’s campaign, targeting the emails of Ukrainian officers, Russian opposition figures, U.S. defense contractors and thousands of others of interest to the Kremlin, according to a previously unpublished digital hit list obtained by The Associated Press.

The list provides the most detailed forensic evidence yet of the close alignment between the hackers and the Russian government, exposing an operation that stretched back years and tried to break into the inboxes of 4,700 Gmail users across the globe — from the pope’s representative in Kiev to the punk band Pussy Riot in Moscow.

“It’s a wish list of who you’d want to target to further Russian interests,” said Keir Giles, director of the Conflict Studies Research Center in Cambridge, England, and one of five outside experts who reviewed the AP’s findings. He said the data was “a master list of individuals whom Russia would like to spy on, embarrass, discredit or silence.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 07:25

Justin Hendrix
@justinhendrix
A very interesting exchange just occurred at the House Intelligence Committee hearings on Russian disinformation. @repspeier posed this Q: [photo 1]

There was a long pause. Then, when prompted, Facebook General Counsel Colin Stretch offered this cryptic response: [photo 2]

Google responded: I agree with that.
Twitter: Same for Twitter.

What just happened here? Did they basically say, yes, but we aren't going to answer here?

Did lawyers for Facebook, Google & Twitter just go silent on a question as to whether the Trump campaign colluded on messages with Russia?

It's a cliffhanger. Hopefully @RepSpeier will follow up in her written questions!

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InigoTaran · 02/11/2017 07:54

Just seen some of the Russian inspired ads that were posted on social media. Dreadful!

thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/358265-10-social-media-ads-promoted-by-russian-linked-groups?amp

TheNorthWestPawsage · 02/11/2017 08:20

Sorry caps are Newsweek's

TRUMP’S TEAM IS TERRIFIED THE PRESIDENT WILL SAY SOMETHING DUMB AND CAUSE A CRISIS ON ASIA TRIP
www.newsweek.com/trump-president-asia-trip-mueller-698691?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 02/11/2017 08:27

Making what Michelle Obama said yesterday even more relevant!

The Hill
@thehill
Michelle Obama: "Every word you utter has consequences" when you're president hill.cm/NNPnK4i

Fekko · 02/11/2017 08:27

I'd say that's an odds on bet. Just how stupid is the question. I hope he has an intelligent translator with him.

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