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Aibu to think a 2 and 5 year old will be fine being vegan for one lunch?

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mauricesom · 27/10/2017 09:46

It's my birthday next week and I've booked somewhere nice that does a vegan high tea. I've invited my daughter (veggie) and her two sons 7 and 5.

I've booked us all for the vegan high tea but daughter says the children will need ham and cheese else they won't eat it. As I'm paying for it I don't really want to buy things I'm ethically apposed to.

Aibu to think they will be fine with hummus and carrot sandwiches for one meal? They both eat food like that at my house without any issues.

OP posts:
grannytomine · 27/10/2017 18:39

Obviously if it is the ops favourite vegan restaurant, where there is no choice, the daughter is being unreasonable to object. Exactly this.

Honeybooboo123 · 27/10/2017 18:40

My children are meat eaters and reasonably fussy but love hummus and carrot. Wraps. As dips. Surely its a pretty standard choice these days for kids?

CorbynsBumFlannel · 27/10/2017 18:48

I wouldn't invite someone to Nando's on the condition I order their food!

Sirzy · 27/10/2017 18:50

But unless I am missing something an afternoon tea is an afternoon tea and you order if for x amount of people and get a stand with whatever that places afternoon tea has. You don’t get a choice generally?

grannytomine · 27/10/2017 18:52

Well at this place it sounds like you can order vegan or something else. If you are ordering for 4 when not say vegan for 2 and non vegan for 2. I'm sure a restaurant could cope with that.

PickAChew · 27/10/2017 18:53

Even my veg loathing autistic DS would happily eat his weight in houmous or peanut butter.

He'd be less than impressed with grated carrot, mind, and carefully pick off every shred and put it on my plate as obviously I had made a mistake and meant to have it for myself.

grannytomine · 27/10/2017 18:54

I wouldn't invite someone to Nando's on the condition I order their food! I used to have a boss like that, not Nando's but a lovely restaurant and then he would insist on ordering and you might like his choice or you might end up looking longingly at what someone else was having. Such a shame when someone is spending money and you are just wishing you could have something else. A few of us were invited out one night to celebrate something, on the way home we stopped at McDonald's as we were so hungry. He had obviously spent a fortune as it was an expensive place.

PickAChew · 27/10/2017 18:55

Quite, sirzy! It's just a very carb heavy buffet!

BananasAreGood · 27/10/2017 18:58

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Mustbesilverlining · 27/10/2017 19:07

The Nando's argument does not work as they have vegetarian food there. I'm sorry but I disagree with OP, I'm veggie and would not choose a veggie restaurant with my friends or family as this would not cater for their choices. I get that it's only one meal but a special meal and I'm sure a good host would want ALL the guest to be happy. I believe that everyone should have their choice

oblada · 27/10/2017 19:11

But it's a high tea so people share so obv if OP is vegan AND it's her birthday it makes sense for it to be vegan!! Some people are ridiculous! It sounds great and a great experience for the grandkids!! Happy birthday!

CorbynsBumFlannel · 27/10/2017 19:16

I'm sure everyone in the party doesn't HAVE to eat vegan.
Choosing the restaurant I wouldn't have a problem with but I think people should be able to choose their own food from that restaurant.

Mustbesilverlining · 27/10/2017 19:17

Nope....I'm vegetarian and have mostly gone out for meals with friends on my birthday. Never been to vegetarian restaurant in this time. It's about everyone having the choice.

noplease · 27/10/2017 19:21

I'm vegan and for my birthday would always choose to go to the vegan restaurant in my town as its the one time where I have full choice of what's on the menu rather than just have one choice or sometimes no choice at all (apart from maybe chips and salad). I never get any complaints from family or friends and they all really enjoy the food! They sometimes even suggest going there now when we're just going for a general meal and none of them are vegetarian/vegan.

brasty · 27/10/2017 19:22

Totally different for vegetarians.You can get nice stuff most places.Vegans can't.

Mxyzptlk · 27/10/2017 19:27

If the kids eat this at your house, they should be happy enough.
Your DD can take something else for them to eat afterwards, if they are hungry. Not something for them to eat before, as if they need some sort of protection from vegan food (that they previously liked).

Mxyzptlk · 27/10/2017 19:31

So by the same measure, you would be ok with an omnivore holding her party in a steakhouse presumably? Her birthday, her choice and expect the vegan to eat meat or go hungry?

As a vegan, I'd be okay with this. I'd check beforehand what I might be able to get. Even steakhouses have things on their menus that are not lumps of dead animal.

MyDobbygotgivenasock · 27/10/2017 19:46

If the op was a birthday high tea at Libs or somewhere and the DD was complaining that the gc wouldn't be able to have chicken nuggets I bet actually money that the replies would be substantially different.
It I'd absolutely normal to book a nice high tea for a birthday at a slightly more expensive place for a treat, objectors would be told they could just decline the invitation if a paid for meal wasn't up to snuff, anyone saying they wouldn't go because it's practically against their human rights to have their meal chosen for them and forced on them - a flipping high tea!- would be told they were on glue.
I've been on many threads being the voice of inclusion for people with allergies and dietary restrictions and urging a little compassion and the main tone has been that they can sort themselves out or get stuffed, it's probably just being fussy or a lifestyle choice anyway.
Make the meal vegan and boy oh boy doesn't the tune change.
Op, you are clearly breaching the Geneva convention, you should be aware that you have been judged, found guilty and will be taken to the nearest manhole and thrown in. How dare you arrange a lovely treat, that you've paid for, on your own birthday. You're a fucking monster and should be ashamed. I hope you are standing in the garden right now whipping yourself with birch twigs.

BarbaraofSevillle · 27/10/2017 19:52

Can those who are saying that the OP is being unreasonable please look at the pictures of vegan afternoon teas in this link and then come back and explain what is wrong with them all?

www.peta.org.uk/blog/top-vegan-high-tea/

Because all I'm seeing is delicious looking plates of sandwiches, scones and cakes, just like all other afternoon teas really.

newmumwithquestions · 27/10/2017 19:53

What do the children want?
OP says they like vegan food at hers.
OP says her daughter thinks they will want meat/cheese.

Surely they could just be asked rather than everyone speculating what they do and don't eat.

you would be ok with an omnivore holding her party in a steakhouse presumably you are kidding right? I used to be vegetarian and this happened all the time. It's fine. But I would never have offered to take a group out to a steakhouse if I was paying!

newmumwithquestions · 27/10/2017 19:54

In case i wasn't clear YANBU OP.

Theresnonamesleft · 27/10/2017 19:59

Gosh, anyone would think the op wanted to poison the guests. All she wants to do is feed everyone fruit, veg and pulses.
I am a meat eater. Don't eat it 7 days a week though. We even have a vegan night - Veggie soup, none meat meatloaf (found this by accident searching for egg free version), 5 bean chilli, Moroccan couscous stew, 'meatballs', carrot and coriander soup. The list is endless.

And yes to hummus and carrot sandwiches. This one sounds gross but omg - peanut butter, beansprouts, grated carrot and lettuce, a friend suggested it and wow, even better tossing the carrot in a bit of sesame oil.

PurpleDaisies · 27/10/2017 20:15

Theresnonamesleft would you mind sharing your meat free meatloaf recipe?

CorbynsBumFlannel · 27/10/2017 20:17

There's nothing wrong with vegan food. There is something wrong for inviting someone out for food and ordering for them though. I would feel exactly the same if the op was insisting they had steak and chips. Let people order what they want!

Theresnonamesleft · 27/10/2017 20:44

@PurpleDaises
www.veganricha.com/2015/11/chickpea-veggie-loaf.html

Makes a tasty sandwich as well.

You should look at some of her other recipes. Really tasty. If I wouldn't miss meat so much I would convert.

And her shepherd's pie is scrummy.