Woman on bus got people to move for her toddler

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Not sure whether AIBU or not. Was on the rush hour bus this morning (in London) sitting on one of those raised high up seats at the very front of the bus.

A lady with a baby in a pram and a toddler (maybe 3?) got on the bus. She walked down the aisle past me and parked her pram, and said to the bus at large, 'Can someone move for my son please?'

I was always brought up to think that children make room for adults - for example they give up a seat for someone, not the other way round. Anyway a few mins later I turned around again and the woman was sitting in a priority seat with her son on her lap!

AIBU to think that 1) she shouldn't have asked for a seat for her son and 2) she shouldn't have sat in a priority seat herself once it had been vacated?

She then got off two stops later! I'm genuinely not sure if it's just me or not.

What I did think was rude was when a woman got on the bus when there was already two prams on. Proceeded to fold her pram whilst ranting loudly that no one had gone up their seat for her to put her pram seat on it! Not my problem love. You can't expect people to vakate their seats for your pram! Wait for the next.

really hope that in life I have as little to do with people like you, and the snowflakes you bring into this world, as is humanely possible.

Yep, me too. It's called respect for other people and children need to learn it. God help all those entitled parents when their precious darlings hit the teenage years. They will certainly reap what they sow then.

Children pay from age 5 up here in the NW. I didn't know it was different in London.

. It's called respect for other people and children need to learn it.

Indeed it is.... please educate us as to what age a child becomes a "person" and therefore worthy of respect.

My 9 year old child wouldn't be getting up for any adult. There seems to be a real lack of understanding that some children need seats, his disability doesn't disappear just because an adult gets on the bus. But it isn't visible, so he will apparently be judged as an entitled snowflake.

chirpyburbycheapsheep Honestly, reading crap like your post, it's like all the teachings of good behaviour and respect for others has flown out the window. It is astounding that we are even having a debate about basic, common sense manners such as this. I have never heard so much nonsense in any other thread. How did you end up like you are? It's pure tragedy.

please educate us as to what age a child becomes a "person" and therefore worthy of respect.

ODFOD

I have 4 children and believe me I empathise with them, as I said previously some unbelievably unpleasant people about here today, it's amazing what people will say when they're hiding behind a keyboard!!

I wouldn't personally have asked, but I always got lovely people help me when my ds was small.
These sort of things made me realise English people are great, as a foreigner.

zeezeek

please educate us as to what age a child becomes a "person" and therefore worthy of respect.

ODFOD
Totally agree!!

It was a genuine question. If we're teaching children to respect other people (A given in my opinion) yet according to this thread they owe more respect to an adult than an adult has towards them then we aren't acrually teaching them to respect people but to respect The right sort of people/person so when do they become that?

"Teaching respect for others"

Ha. Yeah, apparently it only works one way in your book.

Lol! there seems to be a distinct lack of manners and respect from those bleating about having them!

I wonder if this kind of disgust at women bringing children outdoors and being an ‘inconvenience’ to everyone is actually just a big heap of internalised misogyny? It seems the worst thing a woman can do is have children and take them out in public, and try to make life easy for herself and her children. Why do I feel if it was a man with a toddler and buggy that the OP wouldn’t have posted this?

'It's called respect for other people and children need to learn it.'

'ODFOD.'

Not only children it seems.

So children are non-persons and don't command any respect?!

A three year old (or any child under 8, I would say) is at increased risk of falling, being accidentally trodden on, hit with bags etc and should be treated as a 'vulnerable passenger' along with the elderly, disabled and pregnant. Having a regard for the safety of people who are vulnerable regardless of their age does not teach entitlement.

When children learn respect, they receive respect!! Have a good look around and see how many parents are teaching their children respect nowadays, imo not that many, they are too busy on Facebook, Instagram etc, shove juice and crisps at the kids to keep them quiet, it's all going to come back and bite them on the bum soon enough!

Wondered how long it would take someone to ask the question "if this was a man", change the bloody record love

An (able) adult can keep themself safe and steady on a bus. A toddler can't!

Seriously, do you not know that?

I would have got off my arse in a heartbeat. She wouldn't have had to ask.

Apple I completely agree with you!

Seeyamonday for someone using this thread to lecture about manners and respect you are being pretty rude to others.

My ds is four. He can only just manage standing for short periods on the bus, but I have him sit if possible- he's a danger to himself and others if he's standing, he'll go flying if the bus turns a corner hard or breaks suddenly. Far safer for him to be seated

I actually don't believe the amount of people here who claim they would give up a seat since I travel everyday on the bus multiple times and it never happens.

Doesn’t the picture accompanying the pregnant woman sign normally show a person with small child on lap, pregnant woman and elderly person? Therefore she is the exact type of person the seats are meant for?

If the child was school age then it would be unreasonable of her. But toddler - YABU