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To think Jared O'Mara should resign as an MP

203 replies

derxa · 24/10/2017 11:20

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/23/labour-mp-jared-omara-sheffield-hallam-sorry-girls-aloud-orgy
He made some terrible comments online in the past. Surely people don't change their character that much over time.

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Scabbersley · 25/10/2017 07:07

Love how it's somehow the Tories' fault Grin

Scabbersley · 25/10/2017 07:08

He'll stay because Momentum put him there. Ref: anti-Semitic Labour Mps barely getting their knuckles rapped!

LondonNicki · 25/10/2017 07:26

He has said some pretty horrible things about women. I hope he resigns. I'd love to see Nick Clegg back - a man with a hell of a lot more class and credibility.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 25/10/2017 07:28

15 years ago Shock

Erm so what . We can't have only squeaky clean perfect people running the place as ... they don't exist !

Look at all the shitty comments people make here as an example

and I agree with him on Michelle

AccrualIntentions · 25/10/2017 07:36

He should go. Nasty piece of work. Unless we don't believe the women making the more recent allegations...(presumably because it's a momentum darling who is being accused) which isn't a good position to be starting from either.

And it may have been some years ago that some of these comments were made, but he was standing as a Labour councillor at the time. I think that shows a really worrying lack of judgement - he thought it was ok to be expressing those views while standing for a political post. But reading many of the responses on here, it apparently is ok. Confused

LondonNicki · 25/10/2017 07:37

There is a middle ground between squeaky clean and making (recent) offensive e comments about women. The latest was 6 months ago btw.
We need to hold people in public office to a higher standard otherwise we allow someone like Trump in.

Scabbersley · 25/10/2017 07:39

Absolutely love to see him go and nick clegg back. Sick of the accepted misogyny in the labour party at the moment.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 25/10/2017 07:44

Good god labour really is getting the absolute dregs at the moment!
The people of Sheffield Hallam made a pretty poor exchange at the last election. More fool them.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2017 07:53

Love how it's somehow the Tories' fault

If thats the message you took from what I said, then you are a fool and part of the problem.

Its not because they are Tories. It's because they are selective in when they take action. They only do so when it benefits them politically not because its the right thing to do.

By the same token, there were clearly Labour people who turned blind eyes to what they knew about O'Mara because of the political prize. Not because they were trying to further a progressive agenda.

The point is that politics in this country is about the wrong things. What drives and motives people is fucking screwed. Tribal loyalty comes before doing the right thing. It undermines the principle and allows the problem to fester but it gives support to the culture they dislike when it suits people.

It is to all intents what we define as corruption. Moral corruption. From people lacking in moral fibre.

I've been saying it for months. Years even.

Unfortunately this leaves us dangerously open to exploitation. America's fate will be ours. The same thing is happening there and the events of the past few weeks there, are a dystopian nightmare of a scale for can envisage and realise is headed here unless these same politicians of all sides suddenly find that spine.

Its desperately depressing. But hey lets let it happen by shouting about party lines rather than focusing on the bigger picture.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2017 07:59

We need to hold people in public office to a higher standard otherwise we allow someone like Trump in.

This. See the likes of Kate Hoey.

Yes the MP you elect IS as important as the party they stand for. If not more so.

We might yet get Trump himself through how finances will control British politics.

Bourdic · 25/10/2017 08:55

But we don’t hold people in public office to higher account do we? In my work, I would long ago have received my marching orders if I made a fraction of the racist comments our Foreign Secretary has made - I’ll say that again, our FOREIGN SECRETARY. You know the guy who represents our interests abroad. Silly me I keep forgetting he’s a Tory so he was either joking or didn’t mean it and he’s such a jolly cove isn’t he. I’m just sick to my soul with the stench of sheer rank hypocrisy both on here anD much worse in Parliament and especially Tory women MPs

birdsdestiny · 25/10/2017 09:56

Yes it's obviously women's fault that a man spouts misogyny. Women from the centre of the party are saying time and time again that there are problematic views on the left towards women. I am not sure why we do not believe these women. If people don't listen it will be the undoing of the Labour party.

Bourdic · 25/10/2017 10:09

And on the right there are no problematic views of women? FFS - yet more rank hypocrisy - I despair

Bourdic · 25/10/2017 10:11

Women from across the political spectrum should be calling out all unacceptable behaviour and comments towards women but women on the right only call out men on the left. I do so wonder why

birdsdestiny · 25/10/2017 10:18

Sorry but so what. This is a thread about a Labour MP, which has led to discussion about the problems within that section of the party. If course there are problems within the right. What does saying that solve. The Tories are not my party. I want the party I have believed in for 20 years to be a party I can believe in. It currently isnt because of people like this man. Saying what about the Tories is just another way to say please be quiet. The Labour party need to be better. You can call it hypocrisy if you like. If we want to be in power then we need to be better. It's not a game.

birdsdestiny · 25/10/2017 10:20

If you are so concerned about the women on the right then you need an electable Labour party to get rid. He is not helping in that aim.

chocdog · 25/10/2017 10:28

He probably should resign and he should certainly be suspended while it is all investigated.
Sophie Evans is claiming that the MP “flipped” when she rejected his advances and told her: “I wouldn’t touch you with a manky woman’s ck you ugly b.”
She may be lying. But if this is true, and it sounds like there are witnesses, then he is clearly a liability to the Labour party and not fit to be an MP.

RedToothBrush · 25/10/2017 10:36

New allegations this morning relating to incidents 8 years ago.

After he had first stood for Labour.

hackmum · 25/10/2017 10:37

flingingmelons: "'I ask if he is single, for instance, he doesn’t just tell me that, yes, he is. “I’m open to offers,” he says. And then, after a music hall pause: “No gold‑diggers, though!”

First thing he thinks of when he’s asked about his marital status is a joke about gold diggers? Classy guy.'

But I thought that was quite funny. The essence of a joke like that is that it works because it's unlikely. If he was fabulously wealthy, it wouldn't be funny. He knows he's not really going to attract gold diggers, therefore it is funny.

Bourdic · 25/10/2017 10:58

If women on the left just carry on allowing the women on the right to unilaterally call out men on the left, then that will make it harder for the Labour Party to be elected to power - which is exactly why JG etc are doing it. And I appreciate that this thread was started about one individual but to limit it just to him is frankly utterly ridiculous. As I’ve already said, I hold no brief for JOM but I will not just accept without criticism the sanctimonious claptrap being spewed forth by women of the party of DD, PD, BJ, JRM, DC etc. Where was JG when during the election, DA received more sexist/racist abuse than every other woman candidate combined?

Scabbersley · 25/10/2017 11:00

It is ridiculous derailing and minimising to make this about anything other than Jared OMara and his disgusting comments.

BishBoshBashBop · 25/10/2017 11:05

And I appreciate that this thread was started about one individual but to limit it just to him is frankly utterly ridiculous.

No it isn't. It's what the thread is about. Nothing at all ridiculous about It!

derxa · 25/10/2017 11:13

The point is that politics in this country is about the wrong things. What drives and motives people is fucking screwed. Tribal loyalty comes before doing the right thing. It undermines the principle and allows the problem to fester but it gives support to the culture they dislike when it suits people.
I couldn't agree more. When someone behaves badly then it doesn't matter what party you support.

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TheLastPeg · 25/10/2017 11:18

Bourdic who is PD?
I went through PDs in my head and came up with Paul Daniels and Peter Duncan

TheLastPeg · 25/10/2017 11:19

Just realised it's Philip davies Blush