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Teacher 'donated' Dds money!

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WoWoWorrier · 13/10/2017 13:55

My daughter has a knack for 'finding pennies'. She is 8. She collects the 5ps/10ps she finds for sweeties and the 1ps and 2ps go in a piggy bank until it's full. She find a them outside on the floor.

On the way to school yesterday she was saying that she wanted a mini figit spinner from the machine outside our local newsagents.
She had been super good this week and I was already planning on giving her £2 as a reward but she said 'I might find a pound!' So to humour her 'abilities' I dropped a pound a few minutes later and she spotted it.

She was super excited.

When I picked her up from school she was quiet and when we got near the ship I asked her if she wanted to get her toy she told me she had been telling her friend she had found a pound on the way to school and the teacher said it wasn't hers to spend and told her to put it in the classroom charity collection box!!

Aibu to demand it back and be quite pissed off?

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Offred2 · 14/10/2017 19:18

Surely everyone who finds a coin on the street keeps it with no qualms?!.

The idea of handing in £10 or £20 at a police station - as mentioned up thread - seems misguided to me. The police time, paperwork involved etc must surely add up to more than the value of the money, somewhat defeating the point of handing it in ...

pp2017 · 14/10/2017 19:25

I can see the Teachers sentiment and would agree with her response IF it had been found on school property, but ...

given that your DD was with you and away from the school when she ‘found’ the coin and you had told her she could keep it, the teacher had no right to undermine you like that!

I would be pretty angry too so no I don’t think you a BU 😡

hippyhippyshake · 14/10/2017 19:27

I'd ask the teacher for the money back out of her own purse. And then I'd put it in the charity box in front of her. And then I'd tell her never again to take something from someone else because they are weaker.

Or, alternatively, listen to the teacher's version of events and explain where the pound came from.

MaisyPops · 14/10/2017 19:29

But Pengggwn you and I both know there's a certain type of person who thinks they are our managers and that they can drmand x y z and inform us of what they think on any given issue. Sadly, thry are the loudest.

Like I've said on her multiple times, I wouldn't have done what thr teacher did, but some of the attitudes on here are kust creating an over done echo chambet of those who love a pop at teachers and think they are cool for telling their children to be rude.

Not happy with an issue at school? Call the member of staff and politely discuss it. Hardly rocket science.

limitedperiodonly · 14/10/2017 19:31

Pengggwn The beauty of the UK and many other democracies is that no one is in authority over anyone else.

We have laws to sort out public order. I can't remember one that says that a person can take £1 from another person because she feels like it. But do let me know if you can think of one.

However, under the Theft Act 1968 taking something with the intention to permanently relieve is a crime. So think on officious people: taking £1 from a child who legitimately owned it could land you in the soup in terms of a criminal offence and implications for your career and social standing.

Realistically, the police are not going to get involved and I wouldn't want them to. But I'd also wish for bossy bootses to keep out of it too. The teacher was wrong.

Maireadplastic · 14/10/2017 19:38

Do we know this is what really happened?

limitedperiodonly · 14/10/2017 19:41

MaisyPops regardless of the fact that you are a teacher and not Judge Dredd, if you were the teacher concerned would you give the child the £1 back seeing as the mother has explained the situation showing that the teacher made a mistake?

Would you also apologise for making a mistake? After all, it happens to us all.

I also think the £1 should come out of the teacher's own pocket. It would be unseemly to delve into the charity box to cover our own mistakes.

Imonlyfuckinghuman · 14/10/2017 19:48

I'd ask the teacher for the money back out of her own purse. And then I'd put it in the charity box in front of her. And then I'd tell her never again to take something from someone else because they are weaker

Yep. This ^

Morphene · 14/10/2017 19:53

wtf? teacher is in the wrong. None of their business, plus who the hell takes money off a child?

(and yes she did take it, in that she forced the child to relinquish it - what happened to it after that doesn't matter).

The teacher should return a pound to the child.

Pengggwn · 14/10/2017 19:54

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limitedperiodonly · 14/10/2017 20:11

Pengggwn No, really. People can't just do what they like in the UK because they are in positions of authority. We all have to abide by the law. That's the number one reason I like living in the UK because it sure ain't the weather.

You can't just decide to take £1 from someone else with the intention of permanently depriving them of it. That's theft. Look it up.

As I said, I think the teacher should atone for her mistake by apologising to the child and giving £1 out of her own purse back.

Under the circumstances, I might donate it to the charity box . But that's because I don't need £1. If I did, or didn't think the charity worthy or my generosity, I'd take it back. The teacher had no right to impose her morals. Why do you think she did?

Penygirl · 14/10/2017 20:18

None of this would have happened if the OP had rewarded her daughter directly rather than playing a silly game and if she had then looked after the money until hometime. The teacher has reacted to the 'found' money being in school when it obviously shouldn't have been and has applied an adult response to finding money, i.e. Donate it to charity. Overstepped the mark? Yes, probably, but the OP caused the problem in the first place and should think carefully before making a big deal about it. This is going to be your child's teacher for the next 9 months so do you really want to make such a fuss over £1? Talk to your daughter about it being disappointing, and that you made a mistake in letting her take the money into school. Then give her some money for being so good anyway.

Springprim · 14/10/2017 20:21

Just tell the teacher what you did. It's a sweet thing that you did & im sure they will understand-if not, they must be a little bit odd.

Whisky2014 · 14/10/2017 20:23

Teacher is an idiot.

limitedperiodonly · 14/10/2017 20:42

The OP didn't do anything odd unless we are all going to say Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy or any other harmless things we say to children to amuse them or ourselves is odd.

However, taking something from someone else is often wrong and sometimes against the law.

I'm not sure under what authority the teacher thought she was acting but I'm sure that I'd be able to convince her of her mistake and would hope that she would wish to rectify it.

NotAgainYoda · 14/10/2017 20:52

limited

TBH I don't have a strong view either way. I was just taking the piss out of the hyperbole of the person who posted before me

Willow2017 · 14/10/2017 20:54

Op did nothing wrong. She was doing something to make her dd feel good.
Teacher should have kept the money till home time and asked op about it. SHE didn't know who the £1 belonged to so was in no position to be donating it to any charity.

Did this paragon of virtue even bother to ask the child where she found it? You know just to be sure it actually was on school property. And ask if her mum knew she had It? Does not sound like it. She just took the money and disposed of it unilaterally.

All that is teaching the child is that an adult in power can take your money off you and there is nothing you can do about it ( unless you want to question the teacher and get into trouble for it)

Not a very moral tale after all.

Dianag111 · 14/10/2017 20:57

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Housemum · 14/10/2017 21:11

I'm sure I remember one of those hidden camera shows in the 80's doing a similar thing as an experiment- they dropped 50p coins in a shopping centre, and had a charity collector for a well known charity stood nearby. The idea was to see how many people would put the coin in the box as it wasn't theirs to begin with. Teacher was right to encourage that attitude as he/she believed the money didn't belong to your DD

FennyBridges · 14/10/2017 21:14

Legally the teacher is right. Stealing something is taking something that isn't yours, even if it doesn't appear to have an owner. Extrapolate it: your DD finds a purse, no name, with £1 in. Is she still allowed to keep it? It should be taken to a police station (if you're not on a premises) and after a certain amount of time it does become your DD's property.

Also, teachers aren't psychic. They don't know your child like you do. How on earth is she supposed to know it's your DD's when your DD doesn't even know it's hers by default because it was originally yours? Seriously - give her a break.

By the way, the information above is from a police officer who comes into school for PSHE. I've not made it up.

You are completely unreasonable.

3EyedRaven · 14/10/2017 21:14

Mate, if I see money floating along the street, then that’s mine.
If I see someone’s drop money, or a purse/wallet with money, I’d hand it in/call to them and let them know. But just random money blowing in the wind? Nope, mine.

Blondephantom · 14/10/2017 21:17

I would explain what actually happened to the teacher and wait to see their response. I teach primary and would have suggested putting the money in my drawer to keep it safe then spoken to a parent about it. It would have been a suggestion rather than a direction too.

I would be careful of demanding the teacher pay it out of their own purse then put it in the charity box in front of them and telling them not to take something from someone weaker again. Firstly, most teachers spend a fair bit on charity events, classroom supplies and prizes for their pupils. Would some rethink that if they were treated in that way? Possibly. Secondly, if you have an issue with how something has been handled you should raise it with the teacher and then their line manager if still not happy. It is the line manager’s job to take the matter further.

limitedperiodonly · 14/10/2017 21:21

Pengggwn you don't understand this, do you?

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