Aibu to not know why you wouldn't be able to feed your DC's breakfast?

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Daughters school has recently extended the 'paid' breakfast club to 'free' breakfast club due to an increase in the number of children going to school not having had any breakfast.

Are people really that much on the bread line that they cannot buy a loaf of bread or some cheap porridge oats for less than a quid?

I'm not well off by any means and I do donate to food banks when I can. I also ensure my dcs have had breakfast before leaving the house as I was always led to believe it's the most important meal of the day.

As I have said before on other threads I really think they need to sort out child maintenance once and for all. If I actually received the minimum I was told I should expect rather than a big fat zero

Yes I agree. I think the absent parent should be forced to pay maintenance. This would help two things. The struggling single parent, and the fraud issue side where people claim they're single whilst their absent parent is still residing with them earning a good wage by their own.

From my point of view, ur either very lucky with yr dc wanting their breakfast that early in the morning or u force feed them 🤔 My kids aren't ready for breakfast (not feeling hungry) at 7/8am

Not from the mail.
Nothing to do with the cap.

The government benefits calculator.
I actually or the info in myself to find out if I would be better off as a single parent or with DP.

It’s incredibly marginal.
& therefore he won that debate
Re: bigger salary vs. Using tax credits etc.

I also said it was based on minimum wage.
So if that also applies I would seriously question it.

Also involves rent on SE so some of that would be lower elsewhere

You're entitled to no benefits except child benefits whilst a student even if you're working.

I'm a FT med student, I also have to work which believe me is hard around being a final year med student and a single parent.

I'm entitled to Fuck all. Im lucky that I can afford to feed my son and afford childcare. There are plenty of others who are nowhere near as lucky as me but they're doing their best by going to uni to better their child's lives.

So much bullshit info on this thread

My kids can't face breakfast first thing but after travelling to school probably would.Fortunately they can buy toast etc at breaktime

That’s just not true.
You are entitled to tax credits, child benefits, housing benefit etc. If you have kids.

Plus income support for 6 weeks of the summer.

If you are not getting anything then it is because you have income from somewhere else, otherwise you have been misinformed.

No I haven't been misinformed you have, I've looked into it. I've had numerous phone calls.

If you're a full time student you're not entitled to anything. Unless you want to tell the 13 people I've contacted about this they're wrong. I tend to believe those who work with the likes of benefits though rather than someone online.

You are entitled to tax credits, child benefits, housing benefit etc. If you have kids.

You are NOT entitled to housing benefit as a full time student at Uni! That is factually incorrect.

If you are not getting anything then it is because you have income from somewhere else, otherwise you have been misinformed.

You dont get anything because your student loans is meant to cover the expenses!

DaisyRaine90 Sun 15-Oct-17 14:33:47
"If you can work I think you should. A lot of people with illnesses and disabilities work.

I didn’t said all ill or disabled people, I said if they CAN"

And who will force employers to give them a job when it would be so much easier not to have a wheelchair cluttering up the office and not having to risk losing lots of working hours to somebody's hospital appointments?

What is actually happening is:

disability benefits are being withdrawn from people who, in the eyes of an assessor with targets to meet, would theoretically be able to do some kind of job, somewhere

however, there are hardly any of those jobs about

and even for those jobs, it is much cheaper for the employer just to give them to somebody able-bodied and not have to worry about all the adjustments they would have to make

cory and even if DS1 could work, for 2 hours in the morning he's doing meds and physio, and couldn't do a full day because he naps in the afternoon. Who the fuck would employ him? He dropped out of uni because it was exhausting him.

And if some law was introduced that did force employers to chop jobs up into flexible part-time jobs with time off for random hospital stays, how long would it be before certain posters were on here complaining like mad because of the damage done to British employers?

Yes your expenses, the benefits are for the expenses of your child or children

Why else would there be a section about student income on housing benefit forms?

They don’t advertise it, but it is available.

Sometimes you have to solve the problem that is in front of you.

Yes, it would of course be ideal if people on the breadline who were spending money on things other than feeding their children could be made to prioritise food.

Yes, it would be ideal if those people who had a chaotic lifestyle due to mental health problems or substance abuse or DV had the support they needed to get themselves out of the spiral.

Yes, it would be brilliant if benefits were administered in an efficient manner and did actually cover the things that were needed for families and leave them enough that the fridge breaking down or new school shoes didn’t cause a huge hole in the budget.

All of those things would be good, and are great ideals. But right now, at the moment, there are children going to school hungry. Hungry children are disruptive and don’t learn well - so let’s fix that problem, shall we? Everyone keeps going on about how cheap it is to provide breakfast, so it shouldn’t take much out of the school’s budget.

I just love the benefit system.

I was on New Deal when I was pregnant with DD, I found a vocational web design course, they decided I had to do their job search and work placement 6 months into this course, it meant I had to switch from days to evenings, and that every Tuesday and Thursday I was spending 11 hours in front of a computer. I also had to pay my own fares because I found the course myself, and it was a choice between fares, heating and eating. I couldn't not go to college or I would have got expelled.

I’m talking about University not college, and you are talking about JSA so obviously children are not under 5. Therefore entirely different circumstances than I was outlining.

When I went to college (not Uni, before that) of course I had to pay my own fares to and from college. Still do at Uni 🙄

Why should they pay all your little costs? They are what benefits are for.

Evil
You will be getting over 16k a year tax free with 1 child and JSA
That’s a minimum

I was on New Deal and it was a vocational course. If I'd waited 6 weeks for my appointment and they'd found it for me, they would have paid my fares. They penalised me for being proactive. I wasn't prepared to sit on my arse for 6 weeks. I'm lucky DD wasn't miscarried, because I was eating the bare minimum to stay alive. The flat was also freezing because I couldn't afford to run the heaters.

I don't get JSA, I have 2 children under 19, we get WTC. RTFT.

They penalise you for being proactive and at the same time penalise you if you dont do enough; but people dont care enough to find out what the rules are before they vote for them.
Its easier to bang on about scroungers and pretend you brought it on yourself, so it can never happen to me.

Who’s finding your course??

I used to have £15 a week to eat when I was pregnant with DC1 and she was a good weight.

Even accounting for inflation you could get the same for £25

And I mean a healthy balanced diet not rubbish.

Who are you talking to when you're talking about college Daisy?

I found it, and it was 10 years ago, when I was pregnant with DD.