Aibu to not know why you wouldn't be able to feed your DC's breakfast?

[Bearlover16]

Daughters school has recently extended the 'paid' breakfast club to 'free' breakfast club due to an increase in the number of children going to school not having had any breakfast.

Are people really that much on the bread line that they cannot buy a loaf of bread or some cheap porridge oats for less than a quid?

I'm not well off by any means and I do donate to food banks when I can. I also ensure my dcs have had breakfast before leaving the house as I was always led to believe it's the most important meal of the day.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

Before that I stated that she doesn't want breakfast at 7.

I do manage to feed them, but very basically, and they don't have treats.

DD's behaviour has always been perfect at school, she does daydream, but I think that's a high intelligence thing, her DF, who's also extremely intelligent, tends to only listen to things he's interested in as well. When she ate breakfast every day she day dreamed just as much.

[wannabestressfree]

@EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck you were saying at the beginning of the thread that you couldn’t afford to feed them or buy them the things they need on your income.

It is basic biology. Yes there are going to be exceptions to the rule but 99% of children and adults do need to break the fast and eat in the morning to aid concentration, stabilise blood sugar etc.

I definitely notice the difference in behaviour and concentration levels of those children who have eaten and drink and what exactly they have had.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

I think 7am is just too early for her to eat. She eats at about 10 at the weekend, or whenever they have their break at maths class. Apparently they have squash, chocolate and apples.

[mmzz]

The thing is its basic biology. You need sleep, water and fuel to thrive.
I know we eat more than we need, but if your DD last ate at 7pm say, then her stomach will be empty by 11pm and by 7am, she should need some more fuel so that she can work efficiently until lunchtime.

(Apologies for having written this because I know everyone knows it already).

We can train ourselves to do without food (5:2 diet, anyone?) , and after a while you learn not feel hunger, but it doesn't mean that our stomachs aren't empty and our bodies would not like to be refuelled rather than running on empty.

Your DDs achievements are impressive. She's more than meeting any government set targets and she's clearly bright. She'll do well anyway, but whatever her achievements, her body still needs to refuelled at regular intervals.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

DD really doesn't need breakfast. We had parents' evening yesterday, and yet again there was nothing negative said about her. I don't want to boast on this thread, but she had a reading age of 12 at 6, she's asked to do y6 maths because she already knows the maths she's being taught, so she's going to free maths lessons at a prep school on Saturday mornings, she's obsessed with zoology.

I'm only saying all this because neither she nor her big brother have suffered academically because they don't eat breakfast. I can see how that would happen in some families, but presumably these children are actually hungry. DD does suffer if she doesn't drink enough, and that's an ongoing battle because I'm not there to remind her at school.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

They only make them once mmzz! 😂

[mmzz]

@EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck The age when a child is mature enough to make those decisions for themselves is a very individual thing. There is no set age. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

I don't know your daughter, and you do so I have nothing to say about her.

However, IMO it is extremely uncommon for a child to be able to run her own life for these things at the age of 10. Any 10 year old can do it - but the question is: do they make wise decisions?
If they stay up late, skip meals etc, then likely they aren't making good decisions and the parent should still be making the effort to do it for them.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

mmzz well for most of those examples I let DD take a bit more responsibility herself at 10. If she's still awake past 9pm she knows she'll be tired in the morning. If she doesn't do her homework she can explain why to her teacher. I'd make her go to school if I ever needed to. She suffers no ill effects from skipping breakfast, so I wouldn't keep encouraging her if she didn't want any.

[mmzz]

No that's exactly what I said.

[differentnameforthis]

I am saying get a grip and help yourself, if you can. If you can't, then we should all help you whilst according you the utmost respect. Oh that is SO not what you said in your 16/10 10.40 post!!!

[mmzz]

@Dippingmytoesin How awful for you.

I would say though that luckily most people don't suffer from anorexia.

Force feeding anyone? No. But yes to actively encouraging, up to and including the sort of firmness you might take for bedtimes, homework, going to school, etc., etc. I think failure to insist on being the parent in the relationship IS a sign of bad parenting.

[Coconutspongexo]

I was first diagnosed as anorexic when I was 8 I'm 27 and still anorexic but I've got a really good academic record.

Breakfast isn't the be all and end all of education.

Although I do understand its importance but force feeding isn't the right thing to do either.

[EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck]

tunnel yes. Just making the point that people who don't eat breakfast aren't necessarily held back academically because of it. I believe in offering food, not forcing it on people.

[SchadenfreudePersonified]

Have you thought about earning a bit of pin money fills out people's benefit claim forms Daisy?

I'm sure that giving you £50 will be nothing to them as you are guaranteeing £48,500.

[tunnelBear]

@EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck

I have no idea what GAT is. I assume not Gifted and Talented.

[JonSnowsWife]

Dipping Don't be rude. You're simply wrong innit!

[JonSnowsWife]

Glad to see you've stopped flogging that completely wrong and factually incorrect dead horse then.

[JonSnowsWife]

if you have time to come on here

The same could be said for you!

[Coconutspongexo]

Are you suggesting it's us who are the 'lazy'
parents now?! 'If you have time to come on here'


For future reference child benefits aren't technically a benefit. 100% not able to claim tax credits.

[DaisyRaine90]

“All these people”

As I said three people can disagree with something you say and you can still be right.

Pls pick on the HB thing. You can get HB top up if you are a full time student and meet certain criteria.
If you don’t get it then maybe your circumstances are different?

You can get tax credits, child benefit etc.

I am not going to continue this because I know I am right regarding HB in particular scenarios. If yours is different in any way it would not apply.

Also as al decisions are at the discretion of your local area their may be differences due to that.

Tbh the housing benefit thing is so irrelevant to my original point and this has digressed so far I am not going to waste my time on it anymore.

Make your kids a bowl of cornflakes. How hard it that? If you have time to come on here you have time to do that 😂😊

[JonSnowsWife]

Yes whilst all the people who have been through uni and know this not to be the case are simply talking bollocks?

Okay then hun.

[DaisyRaine90]

JonSnowsWife

Well, the amount student finance allot for housing would not even pay for a 1 bed in my area, so HB make up the difference to a 2 or 3 bed if people have DC.

Not the only one I know who has been in that financial situation either.

👌

[DaisyRaine90]

I don’t think I’m above everyone intellectually not by a long stretch but trying to make out I’m an idiot??

You expect me not to stick up for myself??

You don’t need to feel sorry for me love.

Also if you couldn’t tell I was being facetious 🤷‍♀️

[JonSnowsWife]

Yes you would. Not for yourself. For your DC

That's not quite how assessing your income works re student finance.

[Coconutspongexo]

You really think you're above everyone intellectually don't you Daisy?

I feel sorry for you.