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Harvey Weinstein

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caperberries · 06/10/2017 09:17

Rumours have been circulating about this disgusting man and his sleazy casting couch for years... He has offered a half-hearted apology, but seems rather smug about the fact that his family are supporting him.

AIBU to think his wife is misguided? What sort of example is she setting to her daughter? After all, this isn't a one-off - it is a pattern of serious abuse of women over decades.

www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

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Terfing · 10/10/2017 04:45

Malia Obama had an internship at he Weinstein Company a few months back. People are speculating that she's the reason this has all come out. Either he tried it on with her, or she saw what was happening and blew the whistle.

Want2bSupermum · 10/10/2017 04:54

Shadow They are praising Trump because he has been the only man to stand up and say something to support the claims. It's been a rumor for years and Trump has been the only male who has backed the victims. The reason I think Trump spoke out was because HW hired Lisa Bloom as his lawyer. Bloom was the lawyer hired by the women accusing Trump of sexual harassment/assault.

Terf I think this happened too. Either that or he tried it on with the daughter of someone with very deep pockets.

Shadow666 · 10/10/2017 05:09

How has Trump backed the victims? The only comment I've heard him say on it is “I’ve known Harvey Weinstein for a very long time, I’m not at all surprised to see it”

Donald Trump Jr has quite vocally attacked late night commentators on their lack of coverage but really neither has done anything to support the victims or even say this is awful and what can we do to stop it happening.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 10/10/2017 06:24

What saddens me, is the papers (daily mail) are attacking other women for not speaking up. Maybe they are victims too?
Where are the men, who knew this was going on and have also stayed silent? Why must we INSIST on victim blaming (Donna Karen)?
I just wish the people, who actually had something to lose and nothing to gain, by speaking out in support, had done so sooner. Those are the people I respect and applaud.

Welwyncitydweller · 10/10/2017 06:48

I follow a few activistic actresses on twitter (mostly uk based) and whilst they were fervent in their condemnation of Trump, not a peep about Weinstein. Self preservation as his influence could have a long reach? Hypocrisy, respect lost.

Shadow666 · 10/10/2017 07:03

But there is a huge difference between having a political point of view (which everyone is entitled to) and having a view on a potential criminal case. Harvey Weinstein hasn't been found guilty of anything yet. He is alleged to have committed sexual assaults over a large period of time on a large number of people, but he hasn't been found guilty of anything. In fact there may not even be a criminal trial. He is currently suing the New York Times for their story. Several women have spoken out and said that they were victims and they have a right to do that, sexual assault victims also have a right to not speak out and that should be protected. If people haven't directly seen him committing a sexual assault then what can they say? It's just rumours to many of these big name actresses.If he's found guilty in a court of law then of course they will speak out and condemn him. At the moment they risk liable.

OliviaStabler · 10/10/2017 07:39

Yes, but she didn't make it REALLY big until she did The Hours, which HW co-marketed with Paramount and she won the Oscar for.

But by being married to Tom Cruise so early on, she was protected as her career progressed.

OliviaStabler · 10/10/2017 07:44

Out of interest, what would you expect people to do on hearing these rumours?

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 07:57

GP did some risqué shots (talk mag) that were off brand as a favour for HW. I guess if you want an Alist career, Oscar etc. you really had to keep him happy.

I genuinely think people in HW don't or didn't really care. It's all about money, plenty of actors are very happy to work with Woody Allen, Roman Polanski for a chance to nab an Oscar.

southeastdweller · 10/10/2017 07:59

But by being married to Tom Cruise so early on, she was protected as her career progressed.

For the time they were married, yes. They split up in 2001.

ThePeanutGallery · 10/10/2017 08:01

Blind Gossip hints that people aren't speaking out because he has no much on them, risque photos, dirt. etc. I suppose given the lengths he's gone in the past to destroy actors/actresses careers that it's not surprising they're afraid.

southeastdweller · 10/10/2017 08:01

Kate Winslet implies that she knew about his behaviour:

people.com/celebrity/kate-winslet-condemns-harvey-weinsteins-gross-misconduct-it-makes-me-so-angry/

ThePeanutGallery · 10/10/2017 08:09

I think most people in Hollywood would have heard rumors. But do you destroy your career over rumors? I can imagine it would be a tough decision. Imagine you heard rumors about your boss at work, would you report him if you had no evidence?

Riversleep · 10/10/2017 08:44

You would have to be spectacularly arrogant to try it on with Malia Obama and not expect comeback. I suspect he tried it on with actresses that had everything to lose by speaking out.They is true about actresses. He aggressively promoted his films for Oscars, rendering the actual awards almost meaningless in the process. The press on the other hand including the DM (who apparently are sitting on a ton of evidence) could have done some investigations on the rumours well before this. I suppose they were worried about being sued, especially if they thought no one would come forward for free of it ending their careers.

Rocksyluv · 10/10/2017 08:52

There have been rumours and even open accusations about this guy for years, horrendous.

Hard to believe that Meryl Streep never 'heard' any of the rumours, I think that's a big fat lie. At least Kate Winslet admitted that she had heard the rumours.

I guess all the other big names are furiously working with their PR people to come up with a good line that will protect their image.

I imagine his wife is now furiously looking at her get out clause, her business is likely to be down the tube.

flippinada · 10/10/2017 08:57

Yes it's awful that HWs wife is standing by him but when you start thinking about it is not hard to see why she might. He's very wealthy and hugely influential. He could cause a lot of problems for her if was minded to which I'm sure she's very aware of. She may well be scared of him. She may genuinely believe he's innocent (unlikely, but you never know), she may be in denial, she may be a nasty piece of work herself.

Lots of women stand by abusive men every day, sadly. I like to think I wouldn't - but I can see how it happens.

flippinada · 10/10/2017 09:08

I think most people in Hollywood would have heard rumors

Yep. Look at the response when a man is accused of something like this. Even on here, which is (generally) pro women you will get people defending him and getting cross about the very suggestion he might have done something wrong because it's life ruining, unfair etc.

ThePeanutGallery · 10/10/2017 09:21

She may well be scared of him.

Given what I've read online about his tactics he sounds scary. Also, who knows what their pre-nup says.

ShesNoNormanPace · 10/10/2017 09:39

I imagine lots of people are staying quiet because they have signed a NDA and are not sure whether he's completely dead in the water yet.

FrayedHem · 10/10/2017 09:54

Yes, I do think it's actually possible that Harvey Weinstein will recover his career yet. Maybe not immediately, but given a little time, "counselling, apologies and whatnot and lo, the grand unveiling of The Harvey Weinstein Reboot: Humble Harvey. I do also wonder if Georgina Chapman's career will end up more damaged than her husband's in the long-term.

KERALA1 · 10/10/2017 09:55

Agree with shadow I am extremely uncomfortable with headlines attacking women for not "speaking out" and stopping him. Wtaf has it got to do with them? They are not responsible.

I was repeatedly sexually harassed when young in my career (law) by senior partners - I did nothing about it either because frankly I wanted to protect myself and my career and would have got me nowhere anyway (girl that did paid off but lost job). Resent the implication that decision makes me somehow culpable Hmm

cowgirlsareforever · 10/10/2017 09:59

Donna Karen is reported to have spoken about this and said that women have to look at the way they dress. If this is true then I am truly shocked.

Getout21 · 10/10/2017 10:01

Kerala I completely get what your saying & agree but I do also see the view that if you slept with HW for a career, Oscar etc. & kept quiet you are perpetuating the problem. It's a tough one as saying no can cost your career but silence allows abuse to continue. I think it's unacceptable that Jimmy Saville got away with all the child abuse because of silence.

WhatsThisNow · 10/10/2017 10:03

He presumably has a lot of dirt on a lot of people. He probably has intimate photos of actresses that he took while they were with him or that they sent to him.

He's a dick, he's disgusting, he's an abuser of power and influence. But there will be Hollywood actresses who owe their entire careers to giving HW a blow job and, whatever the circumstances and whatever they now feel about that, presumably it's not something they want to publicise.

user1497863568 · 10/10/2017 10:03

Is he accused of actual indecent assault? Everything I’ve read so far points to harassment and inappropriate behaviour.