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Harvey Weinstein

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caperberries · 06/10/2017 09:17

Rumours have been circulating about this disgusting man and his sleazy casting couch for years... He has offered a half-hearted apology, but seems rather smug about the fact that his family are supporting him.

AIBU to think his wife is misguided? What sort of example is she setting to her daughter? After all, this isn't a one-off - it is a pattern of serious abuse of women over decades.

www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

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LeavesinAutumn · 12/10/2017 22:21

Jaw dropping and same modus operandi with each one, same sleezy rouse to the hotel room and the fucking massage crap. How many more? What's wrong with this man. To say he fucked up and needs help! For behaviour he had happily indulged in all his life? It beggars belief.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/10/2017 22:26

ET said she knew he was a nasty bully, but not about the sexual assaults. I don't think that's hard to believe.

There are two separate behaviours here.

HelenaDove · 12/10/2017 22:27

Emma Thompson is going to be on Newsnight in a min discussing this.

EachandEveryone · 12/10/2017 22:33

Ive just put it on

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/10/2017 22:37

God she's good isn't she? Go Emma.

EachandEveryone · 12/10/2017 22:47

I want a body language expert to come along tbh....

derxa · 12/10/2017 22:52

Words are cheap

BanjoStarz · 12/10/2017 22:55

I've not managed to read the full thread yet, but, to quote Mean Girls (sorry) I've always believed their are two types of evil people in the world - those who do evil things (i.e. Harvey Weinstein) and those who see evil things being done and do nothing about it...so the rest of Hollywood and honestly, I'm going to include the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow et al who knew what was going on because they'd been victims...and didn't say anything.

I can just about get my head around not saying something when your a young 20 something wanting to make a career for yourself and worrying about where your next meal is.

But some of the actresses have been very successful for years and haven't said anything whilst he's continued to abuse younger actresses - almost likes it's a right of passage they had to endure so everyone else should to.

And I know it's more than slightly victim blaming, but if the first person had said something...who knows if there would have even been a second (and the rest)

southeastdweller · 12/10/2017 22:58

ET has made her fair share of Hollywood films over the past 25 years and been to seceral awards shows where HW was also, like the Baftas. HW also executive produced Brideshead Revisted. I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility to suggest she knows more about HW’s behaviour than what she said tonight on Newsnight.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/10/2017 23:04

Great, let's focus on a woman's behaviour and call her a liar.

Same old, same old crap. Angry

derxa · 12/10/2017 23:05

ET has made her fair share of Hollywood films over the past 25 years and been to seceral awards shows where HW was also, like the Baftas. HW also executive produced Brideshead Revisted. I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility to suggest she knows more about HW’s behaviour than what she said tonight on Newsnight
How true. They're all hoping that HW is villified and prosecuted and they can all go back to sticking their fingers in their ears and singing la la la.

derxa · 12/10/2017 23:07

All those brave women who came forward to describe their awful treatment at the hands of HW - I believe them and hope they get justice. ET can shut up.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 12/10/2017 23:11

Did you actually watch her on NN? Did you miss the bit where she said every man and woman needs to open their mouths and talk about what is happening every day to these women. She herself has been sexually assaulted, but not by HW.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 12/10/2017 23:12

Surely you assume colleagues and acquaintances aren’t sexual predators, that’s everyone’s default position, unless you see otherwise? Unless she has seen, she won’t know. Isn’t it always the case that when it comes to light that someone is a rapist/child abuser, those acquainted with them are in shock? Being charming and being predatory often goes hand in hand, and it’s how so few predators raise any suspicions

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 12/10/2017 23:14

Ugh some people on this thread are displaying an alarming lack of knowledge about sexual assault victims. Do you think they have the capability of reporting their abuser, but they’re just sitting idly purposefully doing nothing? Do you think they don’t give a shit about the other women being abused? Get a fucking clue

limitedperiodonly · 12/10/2017 23:14

He is being investigated for alleged offences by the the NYPD and the London Met. I think they are looking at more than him asking for a massage and the women scurrying out of the room

gluteustothemaximus · 12/10/2017 23:20

And I know it's more than slightly victim blaming

Yes, it is more than slightly victim blaming.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 12/10/2017 23:22

That ‘father of daughter’s’ article is spot on. Why do men claim to care sooooo much about female children - that is, until she is 17 and 364 days old. When she hits 18, she’s a woman, and her status and importance goes down considerably. She is responsible for the actions of a rapist, as well as her own actions in the presence of a rapist, in the case of Affleck she’s a wank sock with good ‘titties’ and she’s not important enough to stop turning a blind eye to sexual abuse. But no, as long as they care about kids, they’re the good guys Hmm

If Affleck is such a hero he should tell his brother to stop assaulting women. Prick

HelenaDove · 12/10/2017 23:27

fYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday Thu 12-Oct-17 22:37:28
God she's good isn't she? Go Emma.

Totally agree Woods. And some of the MNers on the fat shaming threads could learn a lot from her..................re the way she stood up against a producer for bullying another actress about her weight.

HelenaDove · 12/10/2017 23:30

Tippi Hedrens twitter account re Hitchcock.

twitter.com/Tippi_Hedren/status/918224057346162696

UpnAbout · 12/10/2017 23:31

You can almost tell those who have and those who have not been abused by the coments on this thread. When you are a 17 - x age old young female who has nver came across a predator before you don't know that he is a predator who is doing this routinely. You feel dirty ashamed like you must have done something, you couldn't stop him, why did he think he could do this to you, what is it about you, you blame yourself - that's why it's abuse. come on people. How could a 21 yr old speak up agaist this guy and stop him abusing all the others down the line. it wasn't her it was him. fck sake i am so upset this week at how wide spread it all is and how invisible it seems to be

limitedperiodonly · 12/10/2017 23:34

It's an assault on your manhood when those women are your property. It's okay when you're the one assaulting the property of a lesser man.

Meanwhile all those the women are collateral damage

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 12/10/2017 23:34

Rather than condemning these women why don’t we applaud them for starting a trend for talking about sexual assault, rape, coercion, etc? These women have power, people (especially young people) listen to them. If it means other women and girls have the confidence to report abuse or stop it in its tracks, then it’s a good thing. I grew up in an era of “if you want to get places get in favour with the men” - I’d like to see a world where that’s changed. This kind of things, along with Bill Cosby revelations, feels like a wave of something new. Let’s not use it as an opportunity to bash abuse victims please.

HelenaDove · 12/10/2017 23:36

I was not quite 17 when a 56 year old offered me a lift home and while in the car began pestering and coercing me to kiss him. I was bloody petrified that he was going to drive me to some deserted spot instead of home Luckily he dropped me off round the corner from my parents house. I spoke up and got victim blamed.

#whywomendontreport

noblegiraffe · 12/10/2017 23:36

but if the first person had said something

Rose McGowan seems to think that everybody knew and is now calling them out for doing fuck-all about it.

How can there be simultaneously this idea that everybody knew about it but that nobody spoke up about it?