How would you feel if your 16 year old DS wanted to become a 'young conservative'

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That is all!
Opinions please.

*Ah, it was seek then.

I wouldn't attempt to coin the derivative (zero or otherwise) of 'wank'.

Wankers, to use the common parlance, is fairly easy to defend. Numerous examples of people being wankers*

I was going to pull this bit of peculiar logic-twisting in the face of your being proved wrong to bits but.... to be honest I think people will see it for what it is, Topic

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@SusanTheGentle

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That was me slamming my face into the keyboard.

Tell me how you do with ctrl + f using quotes to match an exact string.

This is killing me!

Given what you said about his parents I’m sure they’re very happy.
But if it were my son I’d be wondering where I’d gone wrong, but pleased he had grown up with an interest in politics.

I’d be making it abundantly clear why I’m anti-tory though and would be interested in hearing his counter-arguments.

I'd be surprised, but glad to see him engaging.

Unfortunately my mother is like many on this thread who would be devastated and she'd probably disown him as her grandson.

I'd tell her to grow the hell up and have an adult debate.

You don't need to use quotes in this case, I don't think - I have set the forums to display 100 posts per page, in the order they were posted. I went to p.1, pressed control then F and searched 'bigot' because that's the first part of the word; keep doing that until p. 3 and the first hit that you get that matches the phrase 'bigotted wankers' or 'bigoted wankers' is your post at 11:34:50.

(Control-F gives you a search box to search the whole page on most web browsers, for anyone who hasn't come across it before.)

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That's me, being the first person on the thread to hit my head on the keyboard, right?

"Unfortunately my mother is like many on this thread who would be devastated and she'd probably disown him as her grandson."

Because loads of people have said they would be devastated and disown him.

It's obviously words beginning with "d" that paople are having a problem with- devastated and disown appear to mean the same as disappointed............

@SusanTheGentle

quotation marks matches the exact string inside as opposed to an assumed wild card.

@SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace

Do it harder. No harder! Harder than that!

Gosh I'd be pretty proud that my 16 year old was feeling so involved in politics

Amazed at all the left- wing people who would try and stifle democracy ironic...

Pleased

I wouldn't be particularly proud of my 16 year old being interested in politics- it's a basic requirement chez Russell!

"Amazed at all the left- wing people who would try and stifle democracy hmm ironic..."

Who's trying to stifle democracy?

"Who's trying to stifle democracy?"

You are Bertrand when you liken voting Tory to smoking cancer-causing chemicals, denying climate change or abusing women.

Assuming your child looks up to you, likening their political ideas to the above will cloud their view, don't you think.

It's one thing to let them know how you vote / feel but another to use cheap emotional bribery against your own children.

That's not 'stifling democracy' Hibert

Expecting a level of understanding of society and some empathy, is not emotional bribery

So dramatic

"You are Bertrand when you liken voting Tory to smoking cancer-causing chemicals, denying climate change or abusing women."

My children a) don't read Mumsnet and b) are more than capable of standing up for themselves and telling me to bugger off and stop being a boring old Trot if they felt like it. Because we have had frank and open age appropriate political discussions all their lives.

Sending heavily armed police against demonstrators: stifling democracy.
Not being happy about your children’s opinions:
Not stifling democracy.

See the difference there?
Stop being so melodramatic.

Assuming your child looks up to you, likening their political ideas to the above will cloud their view, don't you think

Anyone who says their view hasn't been 'clouded' or shaped by their parents and their upbringing is lying. It is impossible to discuss politics with your children without bringing your own views into.

No-one on this thread has said they would disown their child or would disallow them from joining.

I was one of the ones who said they'd be disappointed and confused and would question where they went wrong. I'm a working class, low income, single mother to a mentally ill gay teen and a pre-teen with learning difficulties. I am everything the Tories despise.

If one of my children decided to support and promote a group which does not support my or their rights in any way, of course I would question what went wrong in their upbringing for them to think that was a sensible choice to make.

I'd be pleased.

What would I do?

I would be quite concerned about the sudden personality change, because he is quite left-wing, and spent the day before the general election following Jeremy Corbyn around and getting his autograph.

I would be devestated but would keep this very much to myself.

I would praise them for their drive to be actively involved in politics and do my best to communicate to them that no matter how much their views may differ from my own, I will always respect their right to hold those views. Our children are not extensions of ourselves. We don't own them. Privately I would desperately hope their views might change (and wondering where the fuck I went wrong) but I really hope I would be able to resist the temptation to try to sway them.

I'd be sad, but there many phases kids go through. It's easier to change your mind about than a tattoo or piercing.
ds went through a near-tory phase at uni under the influence of his privately educated russell group friends but is now a good corbynite and just dresses like a tory. Bless

I don't think my calling him a class traitor and a shame to his upbringing helped much in the process, he had to think it out for himself.

"You are Bertrand when you liken voting Tory to smoking cancer-causing chemicals, denying climate change or abusing women."

I think anyone who votes Tory is complicit in the abuse of women, or at least condoning it, actually since they've gotten into bed with the DUP. Denying women their right to bodily autonomy and access to specific medical care is a form of abuse and that is exactly what the DUP want to do.